>on menuPick newgroup, oldgroup
>  hide group oldgroup
>  show group newgroup
>end menuPick
>
>I don't see what's so hard about that.  Can you edit the controls in
>place in Serf?  If not, how do you define the relationship between the
>size of the stack (and the positions of the controls in it) and the
>size of the space on a given tab?

Scott,

 in Serf, a stack can have "tab" as its style, which causes it to draw a
tab control around the card. There's a tab with each card's name as its
title. If you resize the stack in its window, the tab automatically follows
suit. It's really a great concept, and much easier to use than the menuPick
approach because you don't have to create groups or mess with hidden or
visible objects.

>Exactly.  The need to figure stuff like this out on the fly is why
>garbage collection is slow, and why we want to avoid designs that rely
>on it.

 I have to back up Scott on this. Better have persistent objects and delete
them explicitly at runtime than to have objects that stay around even when
the developer knows she's still needing them or that go away too early.

Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer

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