Robert Widhopf-Fenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 11:51:00, Stefan Reichör wrote:
>> Hi Milan!
>> 
>> > Please don't use arrow keys for non-movement commands in xtla
>> > major modes.  This is very unemacsish, inconvenient and confusing.
>
> Well it is unemacsish, but inconvenient and confusing?
> We could argue a lot on that, actually I added them as
> they are convenient and intuitive, at least to me. 
>
>> > For instance, I run `M-x tla-archives' and want to copy an archive
>> > name to the kill ring.  So I try to move with arrow keys to the
>> > name and oops, pressing <right> starts network connection to fetch
>> > the archive categories and pops new window.  If I liked to see the
>> > categories, I would press Enter.  Why to bind it additionally to
>> > another key?  The same applies to <left> there.
>> 
>> I don't like them also.
>> What do others think?
>> 
>> Robert, I think you introduced that kind of bindings.
>
> Yeah it was me.  I never had a need to copy the archive name
> or something else (: and when I would use forward-word and
> backward-word or the like not left/right :) and in the other
> cases I use the mouse to have it in the xselection buffer.
>
> Felt it was much more convenient than ^ (you need to press
> two key on an American keyboard), RET, n and p, since the
> cursor keys are all at the same location and thus made
> browsing of (local) archives much faster.
>
> Then ALSO up/down should be unbound, as they are not moving
> up/down a line but to the next item?

This bindings are natural for me, because they operate in the same
buffer. The left/right bindings just prepare and display a different
buffer. I have never seen that before - so it seems strange to me.

> IMHO would be more convenient to allow a binding copying the
> THING at point to the kill-ring, no need for you to set the
> mark, move around and add it to the kill-ring.
We could add that also - is the ?w binding still available?

>> It would be o.k. to have an user option (default: nil) for that kind
>> of bindings: tla-use-arrow-keys-for-navigation
>
> Sounds reasonable, but isn't it something like a
> micro-theme for bindings breaking your demand for
>
> On , May 24, 2004 at 21:21:13, Stefan Reichör wrote:
> [...]
>> I think, we should define only ONE consistent binding scheme!
>
> ;c)
Hehe, I see it that way:
* We have one binding scheme
* The tla-use-arrow-keys-for-navigation provides a set of additional
  bindings for users that find them usefull.

-- 
Stefan.

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