I am taking Elfy's advise replying to Pjotr:

I think I agree with the LibreOffice suggestion (and the "first impression"-sentiment) but for a different reason: I think Abiword and Gnumeric are just fine for everyday needs but I can see a lot of users who would want to make slides "out of the box", so they need Impress. It would be nice if those users had that capability w/o having to install Libre.
Alternatively, a button would be nice that is labelled "To install Office Software click here" which then goes out and installs Libre. I think many of the XP migrants we expect might be technically capable to install Libre from the Software Center - if they only new it existed! Since they usually don't know its there, frustration might arise (When I started using Ubuntu/Xubuntu, installing an app was easy once I found out there was one! the hard part was finding it and deciding between the different options)

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On 03/20/2014 02:05 PM, Elfy wrote:
On 20/03/14 18:54, PK wrote:
My two cents:

I think it's good if the main quality focus is on the LTS. The short-lived intermediate versions don't interest me much; I see them as a testbed for innovations, and not as "work horses" that require extra attention for stability and reliability. "Want stable? Go LTS!" is a simple message that everyone can easily understand and approve of, I think.

In 14.04 LTS an important step has been made towards modernization: the Whisker menu and the single desktop bar. Excellent. Cool and slick. Nice artwork, beautiful deep blue wallpaper. Radiates quality in a restrained way.

One thing I'd really like (ceterum censeo, as the Roman statesman used to say), is to see Abiword and Gnumeric being replaced by LibreOffice. It would make the default installation so much better.... First impressions matter a lot.

Regards, Pjotr.


2014-03-20 14:18 GMT+01:00 Elfy <[email protected]>:
A lot of work has gone into QA from all sides this cycle.

What I'd like to get from replies to this mail is what you thought could have been done better, what could have happened sooner, thoughts for what we could do in the next cycle.

As an example,  we're looking at Exploratory Testing either on it's own or in conjunction with calls from us to test areas. Simply put - use the applications you normally do and report problems.

The problem I can foresee with that is that we'd get little testing reported without calls.

Another idea I'm toying with at the moment is not worrying so much about testing packages marked as optional - having a different set of tests for non-LTS releases ...

Ideas people - think outside the box if you've time :)

Hopefully we'll get some ideas that will make everyone's life a bit easier during the 14.10 cycle and on

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If you want to talk about default applications please start another thread.

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