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> From: [email protected] > Subject: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 102, Issue 30 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:53:47 +0000 > > Send xubuntu-devel mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of xubuntu-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, (Jimmy Sj?lund) > 2. Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, (Chris Lucas) > 3. Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, (Lutz Andersohn) > 4. Trusty user-testing status on 5 machines (Richard Elkins) > 5. Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 102, Issue 29 (Adam Eveleigh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:00:41 +0100 > From: Jimmy Sj?lund <[email protected]> > To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, > Message-ID: > <CAG=t37eFXSe=z4gvqqwvaxljx6raafszp5uzonj6mq0zx_k...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Joel Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I wouldn't move the panel at all. That is one part of Xubuntu that makes > > it unique. Instead I would just add some text in the installer to tell them > > it can be customized and moved to their liking. I usually show ms people > > the ease of which it can be moved and leave it at that. > > > I agree. The first thing I do when working on a Windows system is to move > the panel to the top. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/attachments/20140324/6e551cd8/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 09:58:29 -0400 > From: Chris Lucas <[email protected]> > To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, > Message-ID: > <ca+kfglgmxyn1sgr2k7vck3tesl1xnbzac95gzmgur-+-7fo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > While I agree with the value in attracting WinXP refugees, my opinion is > that release decisions (default apps, styling decisions, etc.) shouldn't be > made based on what "might" make them more comfortable. I feel Xunbuntu > should stay Xunbuntu and continue to make decisions in that spirit and > mindset. I feel that if the focus is purely on creating the best version > of Xubuntu, people will either like and use it, or move on to something > else. > > Let Zorin OS worry about being a Windows clone. Let Elementary OS worry > about feeling Mac-esque. It's an entirely different topic, and my own > estimates, but most Windows users are more likely to migrate to a pirate > copy of Win7 than anything. > > I would hate to see Xubuntu release a distro that gets so tied up in trying > to attract new users that it becomes something less than it should be. > > Keep the bar on top. Decide on default apps using the same methodology > that had worked so far. Don't pander to WinXP users. Those are my votes. > > Thanks > > Chris > On Mar 24, 2014 9:02 AM, "Jimmy Sj?lund" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Joel Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I wouldn't move the panel at all. That is one part of Xubuntu that makes > >> it unique. Instead I would just add some text in the installer to tell them > >> it can be customized and moved to their liking. I usually show ms people > >> the ease of which it can be moved and leave it at that. > >> > > I agree. The first thing I do when working on a Windows system is to move > > the panel to the top. > > > > -- > > xubuntu-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/attachments/20140324/aa742026/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 09:58:25 -0500 > From: Lutz Andersohn <[email protected]> > To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Default apps discussion - this was Re: Trusty QA quick > recap and look forwardHi, > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/attachments/20140324/c642edd4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:43:31 -0500 > From: Richard Elkins <[email protected]> > To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Trusty user-testing status on 5 machines > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > For my fairly heavy software development/testing, LibreOffice > word-processing / spreadsheets / presentation, and music applications, I > cannot break Xubuntu 14.04 on my testing machine. On my production > machine (just updated to 14.04) and for the other 3 desktop users that I > guided through the piece-of-cake 14.04 installation, the 100% consensus > is that Trusty is ready for launch _now_. > > IMO, this is the best *buntu infrastructure and XFCE ever. I do realize > that there has been a marked quality evolution (up!) since at least > 12.04. Other BSD and GNU/Linux distros are reporting similar > observations. > > The various Linux kernel teams are to be complimented for finding the > optimal balance between innovation and caution, given the wide spectrum > of hardware that they have to deal with. > > Cheers, > > Richard > > P.S. Yes, I did write off the Intel D2550MUD2 motherboard as a lesson > learned (research Linux and BSD feedback before buying!). > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/attachments/20140324/e0d6be46/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:53:41 +0000 > From: Adam Eveleigh <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 102, Issue 29 > Message-ID: > <CAPmLs=qz-0jkmgm1h8tv42symyntzypplyh9nccsphn_er6...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Also Paul, Linux Mint is the distribution that takes 4 customizable > desktops including Xfce and forces them into the Windows desktop metaphor - > Ubuntu tends to just take the upstream. It's slightly less friendly to > Windows users but as an ex-Windows user myself - I think it's a good thing. > > The Windows desktop metaphor is horribly outdated, the mouse travel > required to close an app and open a new one is the biggest distance > possible (top-right to bottom-left) even though it is one of the most > commonly done tasks with the desktop environment. > > Unity does a great job of changing this and reducing mouse travel where > possible while still being good to look at and user-friendly - Xfce's > default positioning also helps people to get out of the 'everything must be > like Windows' mindset. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/attachments/20140324/4b2ef001/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > > > End of xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 102, Issue 30 > **********************************************
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