That seems to be the most likely problem. Is there a way to get logs or run xmodmap from a terminal? either of those would probably be your best bet at figuring out what's going on with it.
-c_smith On Tue, Dec 9, 2025 at 6:10 AM Jeffery Small <[email protected]> wrote: > Cody Smith <[email protected]> writes: > > >Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top of X11 doesn't > mean > >Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland isn't like x Wayland, you can't > >stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a design decision > > >C_smith > > I understand. Then someting else on the system is messing with the xmodmap > settings. There must be some component of the OS, or some app, that is > responsible. I have not been able to identify any repeatable pattern of > actions taken that is triggering the problem. So far it just seems to > occur > randomly. > > Regards, > -- > Jeff > > >On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery Small <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Liam Proven <[email protected]> writes: > >> > >> >On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that > >> >> is causing the problem. > >> > >> >I think they are wrong. > >> > >> >Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland. > >> > >> >There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know of > >> >the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in Xubuntu > >> >Noble. > >> > >> >-- > >> >Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven ~ LinkedIn/X/FB: > >> lproven > >> >Email: [email protected] ~ Google: [email protected] > >> >IoM: (+44) 7624 227612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 > >> >Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 > >> > >> Liam: > >> > >> I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following packages > >> have been pulled in by something over time: > >> > >> kwayland-data > >> kwayland-integration > >> libkf5waylandclient5 > >> libnvidia-egl-wayland1 > >> libqt5waylandclient5 > >> libqt5waylandcompositor5 > >> libqt6waylandclient6 > >> libqt6waylandcompositor6 > >> libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6 > >> libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6 > >> libva-wayland2 > >> libwayland-client0 > >> libwayland-cursor0 > >> libwayland-egl1 > >> libwayland-server0 > >> qt6-wayland > >> qtwayland5 > >> wayland-protocols > >> > >> I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if some > >> other program is using Wayland components in some way. And I'm not even > >> saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's just > >> what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem. > >> > >> In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if > >> anyone > >> does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them. > >> > >> Regards, > >> -- > >> Jeffery Small > >> > >> -- > >> xubuntu-users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users > >> > > >--00000000000065bcb106457de5e6 > >Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ><div dir=3D"auto">Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top > o= > >f X11 doesn't mean Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland > isn't = > >like x Wayland, you can't stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a > des= > >ign decision=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div > dir=3D"auto">C_smith</di= > >v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div > dir=3D"lt= > >r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery > Small = > ><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> > wrote:<br></div>= > ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8ex;border-left:1p= > >x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Liam Proven <<a href=3D"mailto: > lproven@gm= > >ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> > wri= > >tes:<br> > ><br> > >>On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <<a href=3D"mailto: > jeff@c= > >jsa.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> > wrote:<= > >br> > ><br> > >>> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that<br> > >>> is causing the problem.<br> > ><br> > >>I think they are wrong.<br> > ><br> > >>Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland.<br> > ><br> > >>There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know > of<= > >br> > >>the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in > Xubuntu<br= > >> > >>Noble.<br> > ><br> > >>-- <br> > >>Liam Proven ~ Profile: <a href=3D"https://about.me/liamproven"; > rel=3D"n= > >oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://about.me/liamproven</a> > ~ L= > >inkedIn/X/FB: lproven<br> > >>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"; target=3D"_blank" > rel=3D"no= > >referrer">[email protected]</a> ~ Google: <a href=3D"mailto: > [email protected]= > >om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br> > >>IoM: (+44) 7624 227612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884<br> > >>Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053<br> > ><br> > >Liam:<br> > ><br> > >I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following > packages= > ><br> > >have been pulled in by something over time:<br> > ><br> > >kwayland-data<br> > >kwayland-integration<br> > >libkf5waylandclient5<br> > >libnvidia-egl-wayland1<br> > >libqt5waylandclient5<br> > >libqt5waylandcompositor5<br> > >libqt6waylandclient6<br> > >libqt6waylandcompositor6<br> > >libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6<br> > >libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6<br> > >libva-wayland2<br> > >libwayland-client0<br> > >libwayland-cursor0<br> > >libwayland-egl1<br> > >libwayland-server0<br> > >qt6-wayland<br> > >qtwayland5<br> > >wayland-protocols<br> > ><br> > >I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if > some<= > >br> > >other program is using Wayland components in some way.=C2=A0 And I'm > no= > >t even<br> > >saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's > jus= > >t<br> > >what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem.<br> > ><br> > >In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if > anyon= > >e<br> > >does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them.<br> > ><br> > >Regards,<br> > >--<br> > >Jeffery Small<br> > ><br> > >-- <br> > >xubuntu-users mailing list<br> > ><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"; target=3D"_blank" > rel=3D"= > >noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br> > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href=3D" > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mail= > >man/listinfo/xubuntu-users" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" > target=3D"_blank"= > >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a><br> > ></blockquote></div> > > >--00000000000065bcb106457de5e6-- > > > >--===============1919052422431140676== > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > >Content-Disposition: inline > > > >LS0gCnh1YnVudHUtdXNlcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0Cnh1YnVudHUtdXNlcnNAbGlzdHMudWJ1bnR1 > > >LmNvbQpNb2RpZnkgc2V0dGluZ3Mgb3IgdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgYXQ6IGh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMudWJ1 > >bnR1LmNvbS9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3h1YnVudHUtdXNlcnMK > > >--===============1919052422431140676==-- > > > -- > xubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users >
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