I happened to caught in a debate related to XUL recently without knowing. Few days ago, I was looking for some good forum where I can share my idea about XUL. As usual, I googled this topic and found a forum, so I posted a message with my email address included. Because most forum programs these days notify the thread owner when they get replies, I assumed it would do the same job, so I waited.. It has been passed few days and got no any sort of email, so that was it. That is the first half of this story.
Today I googled again to find another forum, and guess what. I found my message caught in a cross-fire at some website~ It is funny because all I've ever done was just posting a message on a forum at http://gmane.org, but later I found out that this website actually relays messages to various mailists, so the message I posted was actually sent to all the subscribers of "Project: XUL - XML UI Language"'s mailing list. wow~ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6445471&forum_id=32541 Pretty interesting things are going on there, especially some debate related to the appropriateness of the use of the term, 'XUL', for general purpose which is definitely disconnected from the Mozilla connotation. Gerald Bauer, the main guy of this group, is arguing that he can use the term 'XUL' in general sense. [quote] XUL stands for XML UI language and can refer to many different dialects similar to XML query language or XML schema language. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6336485&forum_id=32541 [/quote] And he asked me to find other forums if I want to talk specifically about 'Mozilla XUL'. [quote]If it is as you propose that you are only intersted in Mozilla"s XUL than I suggest that you and Sundew move the discussion to the Mozilla XUL Developers Group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mozilla-xul or to one of the Mozilla sponsered newsgroups. [/quote] If I'm wrong, please help me to corrent. Is he saying that topic related to 'Mozilla XUL' is too specific for the maillist , at the same time he is saying 'XUL' can be used as general term? Above all, since the mailinglist deals with general 'XUL', why can't one start a discussion about specific "Mozilla's XUL" by the way? It's like a professor of Aerospace dept. saying to a student that: "We are focusing on the airplanes in various forms in this class. So if you want to talk about F-117, I suggest, you have to get out of here." A guy who can program, can be logical, too. I know Gerald quite awhile with his great project, Venus Application Publisher for JNLP. Maybe you guys became too sensitive at this topic and loosing more important things. hope you can find a good point to wrap up this wasteful debates. thank you. Sundew Wednus Project Manager/Developer > Hi, > now a days, I"m interested in XUL and its interpreter out of the Mozilla box. > before I go further, I want to share my idea about XUL. XUL has potential, but > what I"m thinking about XUL is that, although it has great structure for UI > construction, it could be just another "ActiveX" at the Mozilla-side. I mean, > it simply has browser limitation which most of web designers/developers hate > the > most. > Unlike ActiceX, XUL is transparent since it doesn"t contain any complied > binaries but bunch of declarations of elements in XML, so it is possible that > one can design an browser-free interpreter(presentation layer socket). > As soon as I noticed it I googled and, not many but, I could find some efforts > of this kind. > -some discussion about XUL in IE > http://www.bindows.net/webboard/?action=display&id=1954&group=data/general > (or for you convenience: http://wednus.com/imod/viewtopic.php?t=101) > -ZULU(Flash XUL parser) > http://zulu.netspedition.com/zulu/main/overview.shtml > IMO, most of suggestions, like making XUL interpreter using ActiveX or Flash, > however, are not clean solutions but just another walk-arounds because they > need > another wrapper. > Later, I ended up thinking that maybe I can make a XUL interpreter or parser > purely with DHTML. Actually I develop a project called, > Wednus(http://wednus.com), and it wouldn"t be that hard for me to make a XUL > interpreter by using the Wednus engine. I mean, with using only Javascript > and CSS. > Before I go further, I hope to know your thinking about this topic. > Why do you think there"s no DHTML XUL parsers yet? > (If you know any, please let me know.) > Do you think DHTML XUL parser could be useful? > What other things should I know/acknowledge to/ about making a XUL > interpreter? > Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time by over 75%! Publish reports on the web. Export to DOC, XLS, RTF, etc. Download a FREE copy at http://www.intelliview.com/go/osdn_nl _______________________________________________ xul-talk mailing list xul-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
