2010/2/18 ?????? ??????   (Martin Bochnig) <martin at martux.org>:
> 2010/2/18 Alan Coopersmith <Alan.Coopersmith at sun.com>:
>> ?????? ?????? (Martin Bochnig) wrote:
>>> Hi Alan, this is good news indeed, congrats!
>>> But as often, a small ^but^:
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>>>> Unlike ON and the previous X teamware gate, this gate is entirely open 
>>>> source.
>>>> There is no closed component - the entire repository is published to
>>>> opensolaris.org. ? (One of the first pushes was removing the last remnants 
>>>> of
>>>> Xsun & the associated encumbered font packages from the hg repository.)
>>>
>>> While this is best of it all, maybe you should at least mention, that
>>> this gate does not contain any SPARC graphics ddx modules beyond ast,
>>> and that no single /dev/fb kernel module (sure, would apply to OS/Net)
>>> is available as src in any form, under any license. Not even in the
>>> DDK, right?
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>> While that's true, it's no different than the previous X gates. ? Even the
>> closed X gate had no SPARC graphics ddx in since cg6 was removed. ?All the
>> UPA, PCI & PCI-E kernel drivers & DDX modules live in the SPARC Graphics
>> gate, not the X gate. ? (People outside Sun couldn't see that, so I can
>> understand that you wouldn't have known that, and I didn't think of it
>> as being any different, which is why I hadn't mentioned it.)
>>
>>> Are there chances, that the ast kernel module could be opened?
>>
>> I don't know. ? (I've never actually seen the source myself, since
>> I don't work on the SPARC Graphics gate.)
>>
>>> I donate 500$ cash into the project if you do this.
>>> Hopefully others would follow.
>>
>> I don't know who you'd contribute that to.
>>
>> --
>> ? ? ? ?-Alan Coopersmith- ? ? ? ? ? alan.coopersmith at sun.com
>> ? ? ? ? Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
>>
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> Well, I knew it. You told me about this numerous times over the years.
> However, the reason why I asked was, because you have so much stressed
> its openness.
> But due to the artificial distinction X11 gate <--versus--> the
> SPARC-gfx gate, it triggers unmet expectations to the readers.


p.s. A picture. This is as if you advertise a car: ^TOTALLY FREE NOW, 0.00$!!!^
While not mentioning to the audience, that the cheapest compatible
engine costs 80 thousand $$$   ...



> I have asked.
> This was my duty.
> If it doesnt help, then I cannot change it.
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> Martin Bochnig
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