On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Frank Middleton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 06/10/10 08:27, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>> I was in hospital for 2 weeks.
>> I still get Antibiotics, but I am at home since yesterday.
>>
>> Work can continue.
>
> Glad to hear you are back and functioning!
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Alan Coopersmith
>
>>> Technically, I could throw a tarball up on the website without a project,
>>> and claim I'm done,
>
>  Speaking only for myself, my #1 preference would be to use an hg scr
> on oo,  with sourceforge a distant second. Presumably doing it on oo
> would require a project. Can we get some kind of consensus that this is
> the way we'd like to go? If so, would you still like to create the project
> request, or would you like me to go ahead and do it? Since this project
> is likely to be useful only in the context of Open Solaris it seems to
> me to make more sense to do it there.
>
>> It [the source code] will not stay unused.
>> Be sure of it.
>
> I'll second that!
>
>>
>> I think the most important objective is to revive hardware support for
>> all legacy PCI frame buffers.
>
> Yes, agreed. When can we start? It'll get interesting when we get a
> project mailing list (albeit on oo or sourceforge) and see how many
> folks actually sign up for it.
>  Regards -- Frank





Hi. What are our goals?
To create 10 formal projects on a few FOSS sites, including associated
hg repos and extra mailing lists? And to talk about talking with a
bunch of never before seen folks etc?

I thought we wanted to just get the existing (not yet published) free
parts of Xsun working without the closed bits, after Alan releases the
former (primarily make Xsun link against the open libXfont). This
isn´t actual development, just a bit hacking.

And there is a second reason why I personally think, everything can
just happen _here_ (and nothing else has ever been on the table,
right?)  :  The post-1994 non-monolithic/static Xsun server is only
usable with compatible ddx´s. The only ddx´s publicly available in src
are cg6 and ast. cg6 was Sbus and is totally vintage. And ast (just as
cg6) heavily interacts with the according /dev/fb kernel driver, which
is not available as src (admittedly, in contrast to cgsix).

All other modules are in some cases re-distributable as part of an
OpenSolaris-Distribution, but are still closed bins, no src. For this
reason the Xsun source is of little (actually *no*) relevance or
interest to any other operating system running on SPARC´s
(BSD*/LinUX).
On those OS´s Xorg does already have broader driver support. Plus
there they do not have this exclusively OpenSolaris-specific
situation, that existing closed-src ddx´s  are readily available plus
re-distributable, while just the Xsun server was missing!

So for what reason would we want to travel accross the Net with our
tiny project?
The home of this project is *here*: [email protected] .
Here is the place where the (nowadays rather small) interested user
base will look and ask. And it is also the place, where we can get
best expertise and help from misc. well-known Sun/Oracle employee(s).

To me it doesn´t matter, if we call this a project or not.
But if we do, then I think it should live here.


My 0.18 Cents.




regards,
   %martin
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