I agree too, I would add a note that the problem might be solved by the process of creating MWE..
> Jan is probably too kind for that ;-) well, it annoys me more and more, too, so I will at least answer with delay :-) cheers Jan 2018-06-29 14:09 GMT+02:00 Jerome Duriez <jerome.dur...@irstea.fr>: > Hi all, > > I agree Bruno with your description of the annoying extra efforts that are > required to try to help with such questions. As far as I am concerned, I do > not try downloading things and help in these cases... > > My first suggestion would be to further push users to propose (for real > !!!) minimal working examples, but I think the only efficient way to do > this would be not answering many of the questions and Jan is probably too > kind for that ;-) > > Anyway, I think myself it sounds realistic to ask users to avoid extra > files in their MWE, and do not have any other suggestions.. > > > Jérôme > > ------ > Chargé de Recherche / Research Associate > Irstea, RECOVER > 3275 route de Cezanne – CS 40061 13182 Aix-en-Provence Cedex 5 FRANCE > +33 (0)4 42 66 99 21 > > On 29/06/2018 12:33, Bruno Chareyre wrote: > > Hi Yade devs, > When I try to save a few minutes to answer some questions I very ofen find > myself clicking here and there to access a pastebin file which is needed > for a given script to run. The [pastebin|whateve|...] file can't downloaded > directly in many cases. I then have to copy - which can imply substantial > scrooling, paste, save in the right place, go back to terminal, run. > And sometimes it is just to find that the script itself will not run, even > with the proper data file. > > If you want to see this cycle in action you can have a look at [1] where > four posts more or less are just to sort out the data files, implying than > Jan had to repeatedly reproduce the cycle mentioned above. Worth > mentioning, post #11 introduces additional links for the same filenames > (same content? who knows?), so it is absolutely unclear now what someone is > supposed to download to simply test a script and help someone else. > > I was thinking that we could go deeper in the MWE part of > https://yade-dem.org/wiki/Howtoask, to push questionners toward > self-contained scripts. > An issue is that even among the devs I see this tendency to manipulate > data files. > There are a few cases where it can't be avoided, like stl mesh. But in > most cases I think a data file is not needed MWE, specifically for sphere > positions and clump data (which are just positions). > What do you think? Does it sound realistic to ask users to avoid extra > files in MWEs? > > We could even provide a way to make sure that no "file not found" will > occur. For instance, every mwe.py should be compatible with: > mkdir MWE > cp mwe.py ./MWE/mweTest.py > cd MWE > /path/to/yade mweTest.py > rm -rf ../MWE > > Other suggestions? > > Bruno > > [1] https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/670501 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-dev > Post to : yade-dev@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-dev > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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