Question #429604 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/429604
Status: Answered => Open
Raphaël Maurin is still having a problem:
Hi Bruno,
Not sure I completely agree with you on all what you are saying.
- Regarding getIncidentVel, I thought at using shearInc but this gives me only
the shear component and I also want the normal one so it does not work. I need
to use getIncidentVel
- Regarding the periodicity, it is implemented in
Law2_ScGeom_ViscElPhys_Basic. Indeed, the shift which is necessary to evaluate
the geometry of the contact between two particles
(scene->cell->intrShiftPos(cellDist), usually called shift2 in the code) and
that you are describing, is implemented in it.
However, the problem does not seem to rely on the periodicity, at least for
spheres, but on the periodicity for interaction between spheres and other
objects. This can be very well identified by comparing the contact law with
Law2_ScGeom_FrictPhys_CundallStrack. In the latter case, a "trick"/an
approximation is used when considering periodic boundary conditions. It is the
one I reported:
if (!scene->isPeriodic && !sphericalBodies) {
State* de1 = Body::byId(id1,scene)->state.get();
State* de2 = Body::byId(id2,scene)->state.get();
applyForceAtContactPoint(-phys->normalForce-shearForce, geom->contactPoint,
id1, de1->se3.position, id2, de2->se3.position);}
else {//we need to use correct branches in the periodic case, the following
apply for spheres only
Vector3r force = -phys->normalForce-shearForce;
scene->forces.addForce(id1,force);
scene->forces.addForce(id2,-force);
scene->forces.addTorque(id1,(geom->radius1-0.5*geom->penetrationDepth)*
geom->normal.cross(force));
scene->forces.addTorque(id2,(geom->radius2-0.5*geom->penetrationDepth)*
geom->normal.cross(force));
}
Where we can see that in the case where the conditions are periodic the first
condition is never fulfilled, and the part following the else is used. In that
case, what is applied is that the contact point is always considered to be
situated at the middle of the penetration depth. While this is ok for particles
of the same size, this to my opinion does not apply when considering the
interaction of a particle with a wall. My question was (and still is): why is
it necessary to use this trick/approximation to avoid the bug ?
- For the fact to implement a potential correction (which I will probably do)
in CundallStrack, I am not sure it is relevant, especially considering that to
my knowledge a non-negligible number of people use this contact law and I
believe it is not a good idea to leave this contact law with a mistake. I could
simply adjust the formulation to make it similar to CundallStrack, in order to
have a coherence and correct the mistake (if there is any real one).
Cheers
Raphael
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