Hi All,

   I wanted to discuss about the separate repo for thirdparty dependencies
which we need to shaded and include in Hadoop component's jars.

   Apologies for the big text ahead, but this needs clear explanation!!

   Right now most needed such dependency is protobuf. Protobuf dependency
was not upgraded from 2.5.0 onwards with the fear that downstream builds,
which depends on transitive dependency protobuf coming from hadoop's jars,
may fail with the upgrade. Apparently protobuf does not guarantee source
compatibility, though it guarantees wire compatibility between versions.
Because of this behavior, version upgrade may cause breakage in known and
unknown (private?) downstreams.

   So to tackle this, we came up the following proposal in HADOOP-13363.

   Luckily, As far as I know, no APIs, either public to user or between
Hadoop processes, is not directly using protobuf classes in signatures. (If
any exist, please let us know).

   Proposal:
   ------------

   1. Create a artifact(s) which contains shaded dependencies. All such
shading/relocation will be with known prefix
**org.apache.hadoop.thirdparty.**.
   2. Right now protobuf jar (ex: o.a.h.thirdparty:hadoop-shaded-protobuf)
to start with, all **com.google.protobuf** classes will be relocated as
**org.apache.hadoop.thirdparty.com.google.protobuf**.
   3. Hadoop modules, which needs protobuf as dependency, will add this
shaded artifact as dependency (ex: o.a.h.thirdparty:hadoop-shaded-protobuf).
   4. All previous usages of "com.google.protobuf" will be relocated to
"org.apache.hadoop.thirdparty.com.google.protobuf" in the code and will be
committed. Please note, this replacement is One-Time directly in source
code, NOT during compile and package.
   5. Once all usages of "com.google.protobuf" is relocated, then hadoop
dont care about which version of original  "protobuf-java" is in dependency.
   6. Just keep "protobuf-java:2.5.0" in dependency tree not to break the
downstreams. But hadoop will be originally using the latest protobuf
present in "o.a.h.thirdparty:hadoop-shaded-protobuf".

   7. Coming back to separate repo, Following are most appropriate reasons
of keeping shaded dependency artifact in separate repo instead of submodule.

      7a. These artifacts need not be built all the time. It needs to be
built only when there is a change in the dependency version or the build
process.
      7b. If added as "submodule in Hadoop repo", maven-shade-plugin:shade
will execute only in package phase. That means, "mvn compile" or "mvn
test-compile" will not be failed as this artifact will not have relocated
classes, instead it will have original classes, resulting in compilation
failure. Workaround, build thirdparty submodule first and exclude
"thirdparty" submodule in other executions. This will be a complex process
compared to keeping in a separate repo.

      7c. Separate repo, will be a subproject of Hadoop, using the same
HADOOP jira project, with different versioning prefixed with "thirdparty-"
(ex: thirdparty-1.0.0).
      7d. Separate will have same release process as Hadoop.


    HADOOP-13363 (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-13363) is an
umbrella jira tracking the changes to protobuf upgrade.

    PR (https://github.com/apache/hadoop-thirdparty/pull/1) has been raised
for separate repo creation in (HADOOP-16595 (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-16595)

    Please provide your inputs for the proposal and review the PR to
proceed with the proposal.


   -Thanks,
    Vinay

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:54 AM Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <vino...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Moving the thread to the dev lists.
>
> Thanks
> +Vinod
>
> > On Sep 23, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Vinayakumar B <vinayakum...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Marton,
> >
> > Current created 'hadoop-thirdparty' repo is empty right now.
> > Whether to use that repo  for shaded artifact or not will be monitored in
> > HADOOP-13363 umbrella jira. Please feel free to join the discussion.
> >
> > There is no existing codebase is being moved out of hadoop repo. So I
> think
> > right now we are good to go.
> >
> > -Vinay
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:38 PM Marton Elek <e...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am not sure if it's defined when is a vote required.
> >>
> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> >>
> >> Personally I think it's a big enough change to send a notification to
> the
> >> dev lists with a 'lazy consensus'  closure
> >>
> >> Marton
> >>
> >> On 2019/09/23 17:46:37, Vinayakumar B <vinayakum...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> As discussed in HADOOP-13363, protobuf 3.x jar (and may be more in
> >> future)
> >>> will be kept as a shaded artifact in a separate repo, which will be
> >>> referred as dependency in hadoop modules.  This approach avoids shading
> >> of
> >>> every submodule during build.
> >>>
> >>> So question is does any VOTE required before asking to create a git
> repo?
> >>>
> >>> On selfserve platform https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html
> >>> I can access see that, requester should be PMC.
> >>>
> >>> Wanted to confirm here first.
> >>>
> >>> -Vinay
> >>>
> >>
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