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Wangda Tan commented on YARN-8849:
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Thanks [~asuresh] and [~oliverhuh...@gmail.com] filing the proposal. This looks 
very interesting. 

But there are some parts I have some doubt and hope to get more clarifications: 

1) If no container actually launched, how can we test changes like cgroups OOM 
killer, utilization metrics collection from OS, etc. 

2) If one of the purpose is to handle the simulated NM / AM running with RM 
inside the same process, we can run simulated AM/NM in a separate process / 
machine to better isolate resource usage.

3) Can we do large scale simulation by using relatively less number of 
machines? (Like using 10 nodes to simulate 10k nodes).

> DynoYARN: A simulation and testing infrastructure for YARN clusters
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: YARN-8849
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-8849
>             Project: Hadoop YARN
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Arun Suresh
>            Assignee: Keqiu Hu
>            Priority: Major
>
> Traditionally, YARN workload simulation is performed using SLS (Scheduler 
> Load Simulator) which is packaged with YARN. It Essentially, starts a full 
> fledged *ResourceManager*, but runs simulators for the *NodeManager* and the 
> *ApplicationMaster* Containers. These simulators are lightweight and run in a 
> threadpool. The NM simulators do not open any external ports and send 
> (in-process) heartbeats to the ResourceManager.
> There are a couple of drawbacks with using the SLS:
>  * It might be difficult to simulate really large clusters without having 
> access to a very beefy box - since the NMs are launched as tasks in a 
> threadpool, and each NM has to send periodic heartbeats to the RM.
>  * Certain features (like YARN-1011) requires changes to the NodeManager - 
> aspects such as queuing and selectively killing containers have to be 
> incorporated into the existing NM Simulator which might make the simulator a 
> bit heavy weight - there is a need for locking and synchronization.
>  * Since the NM and AM are simulations, only the Scheduler is faithfully 
> tested - it does not really perform an end-2-end test of a cluster.
> Therefore, drawing inspiration from 
> [Dynamometer|https://github.com/linkedin/dynamometer], we propose a framework 
> for YARN deployable YARN cluster - *DynoYARN* - for testing, with the 
> following features:
>  * The NM already has hooks to plug-in custom *ContainerExecutor* and 
> *NodeResourceMonitor*. If we can plug-in a custom *ContainersMonitorImpl*'s 
> Monitoring thread (and other modules like the LocalizationService), We can 
> probably inject an Executor that does not actually launch containers and a 
> Node and Container resource monitor that reports synthetic pre-specified 
> Utilization metrics back to the RM.
>  * Since we are launching fake containers, we cannot run normal AM 
> containers. We can therefore, use *Unmanaged AM*'s to launch synthetic jobs.
> Essentially, a test workflow would look like this:
>  * Launch a DynoYARN cluster.
>  * Use the Unmanaged AM feature to directly negotiate with the DynaYARN 
> Resource Manager for container tokens.
>  * Use the container tokens from the RM to directly ask the DynoYARN Node 
> Managers to start fake containers.
>  * The DynoYARN NodeManagers will start the fake containers and report to the 
> DynoYARN Resource Manager synthetically generated resource utilization for 
> the containers (which will be injected via the *ContainerLaunchContext* and 
> parsed by the plugged-in Container Executor).
>  * The Scheduler will use the utilization report to schedule containers - we 
> will be able to test allocation of *Opportunistic* containers based on 
> resource utilization.
>  * Since the DynoYARN Node Managers run the actual code paths, all preemption 
> and queuing logic will be faithfully executed.



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