On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:04:04 -0400
Robert Schweikert <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09/27/2013 09:41 AM, Josef Reidinger wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:37:50 -0400
> > Robert Schweikert <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 09/26/2013 02:07 PM, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> The SUSE YaST team started developing some major YaST features for
> >>> SUSE Linux Enterprise 12 (SLE12) installer and we would like to
> >>> include these features in
> >>> the next openSUSE-13.2 release.
> >>>
> >>> The features are mainly about making the installer easier and to
> >>> simplify the
> >>> installation workflow.
> >>>
> >>> We will not create a completely new installer from scratch (that
> >>> would need too much
> >>> time and manpower), we will reuse the existing functionality as
> >>> much as possible,
> >>> the current installation framework is quite flexible (e.g. the
> >>> installation steps are
> >>> defined in external control.xml file).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here is the summary of the main goals:
> >>>
> >>> - Remove the second installation stage (started after reboot),
> >>> configure the system
> >>>     completely just in one stage, after finishing the installer
> >>> the freshly installed
> >>>     system must be ready to use.
> >>>
> >>> - It should be possible to NOT install the Yast installer itself
> >>> into the target
> >>>     system to make it smaller (except when firstboot or some
> >>> complex AutoYast
> >>>     setup is used, then the installer will be needed).
> >>>
> >>> - Separate the installer into 3 basic steps (collect data,
> >>> install, apply config),
> >>>     make the steps replaceable by 3rd party applications.
> >>>
> >>> - It should be possible to use the installer just for configuring
> >>> the installation
> >>>     and exporting the setup into a file (without performing the
> >>> actual installation).
> >>>     The exported file could be then used to install other
> >>> system(s). (Like AutoYast
> >>>     does, the new installer will contain some AutoYast
> >>> functionality).
> >>>
> >>> - It should be possible to alternatively deploy already existing
> >>> appliance image
> >>>     (provided by user) instead of installing from RPMs.
> >>>
> >>> - Simplify the installation workflow, auto-configure what's
> >>> possible, advanced
> >>>     setup (NIS, LDAP, Kerberos...) should be done in installed
> >>> system.
> >>
> >> Hmm auto configuration is nice, but we should keep in mind that we
> >> probably should not take away the opportunity to manually configure
> >> things, such as the network for example. Today there is an
> >> autoconfiguration for DHCP, but the user can set it to manual
> >> configuration and set up the network as needed.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well, when we discussing it, we agreed that for network if DHCP is
> > find, then use it and if it is not find, then allow user to
> > configure it. Usual work-flow is that DHCP is set and it is just
> > used, so do not bother user with network configuration if we can
> > use what dhcp gives us.
> 
> But just because there is a DHCP server that does not necessarily
> imply that for a particular install the user wants to use it. Yes,
> one can argue that this is a corner case, but having a checkbox as it
> is today that allows the user to set "configure the network manually"
> is hardly "bothering the user", IMHO.
> 
> Later,
> Robert
> 
> 

Well,
we plan to involve designer into this part, so we can add it in some
non-intrusive way ( I hope ).

Josef
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