On 01/22/2016 03:13 PM, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
> On 22.1.2016 13:35, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
>> A assume that "next to root password" means one additional step after
>> setting the root password. That would be the easiest option to
>> implement, but I kind of dislike having an extra screen for such a small
>> and "obscure" setting.
> 
> No, it's definitely not about adding yet another empty dialog. Next to,
> is "close to".
> 
>> I believe it belongs to the summary screen because:
>>  - Many users will not know what it's about
>>  - The default value is good for most cases, a few users would change it
> 
> Then I hope you will get the blessing from Ken later as what I remember,
> he wanted to remove as much from the summary as possible.
> 
>> If "next to root password" means in the same step that setting the root
>> password, I have even more reasons to dislike it. :-)
> 
> I believe you do, but as you did not write any of them here, it's hard
> to compare what is worse :)

In addition to the already commented reasons (obscure and usually not
changed):
 - The root password step is currently skipped in some cases
   (like if "use this password for root" in checked when creating user)
 - It's abusing a single step that now has a clear goal to do two
   different things

> Anyway, I'm neither a designer nor a usability expert, although I've
> already done quite some bad UI and learned from that a bit. If I knew
> how to make a simply-looking and understandable UI while having all the
> requested features, I would probably win a Nobel prize for design!

Yeah, quite challenging.

Cheers.
-- 
Ancor González Sosa
YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
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