On 8/10/20 3:25 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
> On 8/10/20 3:03 PM, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
>> On 2020-07-24 14:55, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
>>> We also discussed the idea of offering a WUI:
>>>
>>> - We see real use-cases for it, like:
>>>   * configuration via a web browser is kind of common/expected for
>>>     embedded systems, IOT devices, etc.
>>>   * sysadmins needing to adjust/monitor something when they only have a
>>>     browser/tablet/phone at hand
>>
>> Oh, the old WebUI topic; a zombie that has to be slain every couple of
>> years, to be summoned back into this world by somebody who hasn't been
>> part of the previous bloody and messy slaying a few years before... ;-(
> 
> Nobody thinks it's realistic to add a web UI to the CURRENT YaST. And
> nobody dares to even try. The premise of the card/meeting was to think
> about how the UI of a tool like YaST (not necessarily its current
> incarnation) could look like.
> 
> You don't have to convince anyone that adding web capabilities to libYUI
> is a crappy idea. I hope everybody agrees there. :-)

We've been trying to add Web UI/API in the past as there was a demand
for that. We have already failed, yes, but the request comes over and
over again, because it's still valid approach.

Some use-cases:
- IoT (and RPi)
- Windows user re/configuring Linux system
- (Far) remote installation/configuration
- 1:many management

In fact, many new things have some kind of a remote API. Trackers,
electric plugs, cars, temperature sensors, vacuum cleaners, ... and they
mostly either have web-based one or a phone app or both.

The current task was to collect "as much ideas how the perfect next
generation YaST could look like" as possible. Obviously we'll think
about the current libyui later and maybe ... maybe the solution could be
to write a new UI framework. Maybe we find and existent project that can
be used and adjusted to our needs. Maybe we'll decide to do libyui
refactoring. That's all undecided yet.

Hopefully (anything we'll do) we'll use as much upstream as possible.
NIH syndrome should not apply here.

Thx && Bye
Lukas

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Lukas Ocilka, Systems Management Team Leader & YaST Product Owner
SLE Department, SUSE Linux

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