I think you should learn to differentiate issues. Here we were talking
about Julius as a person and not as a leader of which I do not give a damn
about his leadership style. Yes I know that he was democratically elected
in Mangaung of which I do not dispute that regardless of the way he was
elected. But as intwana ekhule ngaphandle ko Tata there is a lot that he is
missing and i still remember when he was in COSAS he had no respect for
elders and these things that he is saying that he would kill for Zuma is
not something new as he mentioned that he will burn the jail that will
imprison Winnie if convicted. There is a youth program and he is not
emphasizing it. Le ntwana i ruthless as he was now fighting for the
abolishment of the investment company of the YL and he shut his mouth when
he was given inqatha and became an accountant and he is currently being
given grant to study and he is quiet about the investment company. Mandime
apho ndilinde lamatsha ntliziyo aphendule.
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Subject
RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's
Matric Results
Com
you are inline and also you are proving what I've constantly mantained,
that a debate should not be left in the hands of the so called fundi's.
Although I'm in the E.Cape,I've had the oportunity to meet the comrade
whilst he was at COSAS, he was this vibrant. Coming back to the issue of
certificate,mine is similar to that of Malema, I'm a brilliant somebody
even if I say so myself, however you will not see that in any certificate.
The point I'm making is that, the dogs will bark at a moving car,if you
wrestle with pigs you will get dirt and the pigs will love it.Malema
deserves the respect that others claim he doesnt have,as a human being and
as leader of one of the large youth formations in the continent.People
should know that as youth our voice matter and Malema is that voice.We will
be damned if we are going to let the so called I repeat the so called
interlectuals to be the voice of our community,we dare not listen to them.
the society has been hijacked by the phobia of political debate and we dare
not give in. phambili Malema phambili!!!
From: Cakwebe, Ronnie
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:15 PM
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Subject: FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
DERRICK HLUKANA NO MALEMA UZODLIWA ZIZINJA ZOMBUTHO IINTNGA ZAKHO KE PHOFU
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:27 PM
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Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
Comrade Mondli,
I am proud of you my chief, well articulated point.
Comradely,
Cedric Gina.
On 10/24/08, Mondli Hlatshwayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi comrades
I want to state it from the very onset that I am not a Julius Malema's
fan. I really disagree with a number of statements that have been made by
Malema in the media. I think his approach to politics is not advancing
the interest of the South African youth but that is debate for another
day.
On the other hand, I do think though that those who are socialists and
activists should not fall into the trap of the petty bourgeois elements,
the analysts of the bourgeois order and the mass media. During our dark
of the struggle, formal education and qualifications were always taken
with a pinch of salt. We knew that in general formal education was there
to serve the interest of the apartheid capitalist system.
Our approach was to go to the school and use them as a site of struggle.
Of course, we studied and got formal qualification but individual
qualifications and certificates were not glorified. If you read a popular
pamphlet issues by students of 1976 called, "To town, To Ellof", you will
notice that for them the certificate was the struggle. We had a lot of
comrades who did not have all these formal qualifications but they
performed better politically. In many cases, these comrades were sharper
than those who had university qualification. The struggle was their
school.
In fact, their education was what we call popular education which was
based on collective learning and sharing of experiences. These were
grassroots intellectuals or what Gramsci would call organic
intellectuals. A number of these comrades were shop stewards, student
leaders and so on. In fact, these comrades were able to debate with
professors and academics. These comrades ran their own study circles and
read the Learning Nation of the then New Nation. The mass movement and
the struggle gave these comrades education. .
Today, we are faced with a situation where certain petty bourgeois
elements want to judge us on the basis of our grammar, pronunciation,
certificates and even matric results. In other words, it is only those
who have masters degree who are entitled to public opinions. We must
never forget that the apartheid system never provided the black working
class children with proper education. Even today, it is the kids of the
middle class and the ruling class who are able to excel in formal
education because they have all the material support from their parents.
Over the past few days, I witnessed a very painful and a touching
incident in Freedom Park, the South of Johannesburg. I had gone for a
meeting there. There was a working class kid at the meeting. He is
probably three years old but he could not hold the pen properly. Now if
you were to compare that with middle class and upper class kids, what do
you get? The kids from better family backgrounds at that age are starting
to read and write. They even speak English fluently. They are exposed to
computers. Now we can see right from the beginning that this working
class kid is unlikely to compete with the kids of the middle classes.
I have worked with a lot of good comrades who do not have matric
results. Do I then undermine these comrades just because they never
matriculated? I think that would be reactionary and backward on my part.
I have to confess that these comrades sometimes perform political tasks
much better than the certificate-wielding petty bourgeois elements.
Yours in the struggle for the total emancipation of the working class
Mondli Hlatshwayo
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