Nndwamato, I'm not a cohort. Call me Cde or use my name. I'm not angry but rather I'm disappointed for waiting at the pick up point for no transport that was promised by the leadership. Further, I never wanted to be a delegate. I kindly declined nomination.
I find your response vague and contradictory. Were you really at the conference, did you listen attentively or selectively? Did you learn from what you heard? While you say that the Secretary spoke of moving away from the 'politics of Suspects'(sic) you nevertheless tell me to go and 'join your brother...' You seem to advocate unity yet you are vengeful in practice. And why do you say I should tell you 'as to why Mbeki does not have the Courage to Denounce this Group...' I'm not his spokesperson neither his spin-doctor. I think you should try as far as possible to concentrate on the issues I raise and stop fishing for issues that I never raised. You are not clear as to how Tshwane managed to be proactive and get transport and the 'bus complains...was not enter province issue,' is quite vague for me to understand. Please elucidate. Maybe you can give us some tips so that next time we become active in our district and get the buses like you district did. I don't pretend to be anything other than what I am. And I won't claim to be more of a communist than you are. Yours for a democratic dictatorship of the working class Thando Tshangela -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nndwamato Mutshidza Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:31 To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] MANAMELA YOU SAID A MOUTH FULL Deat Thando, I wanted not to enter this debate and defend the YCL and its allies from cohort like you. I mean you said with pride that you waited for the bus or transport to take you to Alex as if it was a YCL making not to provide the Busses as promised. Lets put this matter into context. The very same YCL had a week long programme ending with the Rally. Maybe you are angry that you were not a delegate to the Mid-Term Policy Conference and you want show you divisive tendencies on this site. I should clearly clarify what the National Secretary said when addressing those of us who were there. That we should move away from politics of Suspects, wherein leaders are purged because they differ with your views. he further re-iterate the continuing deafening silence of Cde Mbeki on this new party and then posed a Question, which you should tell us wena as to why Mbeki does not have the Courage to Denounce this Group like he had the courage to write to the President of the ANC on number of issues. You see, the National Secretary in his key Note Speech never make reference to the "B" word and as such only call for all of us to defend the ANC-Lead Alliance and the Gains we have scored so far and further re-evaluate those areas that were identified as Key priority for the ANC in this Election Manifesto. You do not behave like Mhlongo, who will just out of Erection or Excitement go on air and accuse the General Secretary of SACP to be a member of IFP and not provide proof. It does not take a Grade 3 child to understand where are you standing and stop to claim to be one of us while you speak passionately about this Group of Three and others. It is your rhetoric that makes us sick. I am challenging you provide evidence of those alienation that you suffer so seriously whenever Buti Speaks. Is it because you are in the receiving end of the democratic principles that you said you will abide by when you voluntarily join the YCL or any of the Alliance organisation? Please spare us this nonsensical rhetoric of people who seeks attention where it is not due. Evidenly you want us to believe in you while you do not want to expose your true colours. We are saying stop behaving like a poilt Brat and go join your brother in their Three-Some Company and then we could engage well as oppositions. You have the nerve to tell us that our house is out of order and we are not coping hence your Three-Some party is coping. Like I said if there was a contextual argument maybe we will have the courage to defend your course but just like all of them, who claim that our movement is on not in order and when you ask why, we are told because some like you do not want to tow party discipline and want to loom larger than the movement. Please bring to this platform genuine issue and we will really entertain them. Because the same bus complains you are charging us of was not enter province issue. If you Region, which you are telling us that you waited until you gave up was not there to properly organise please blame the fact that you do not want to be a volunteer and organise for your constituency when the leadership was in Policy Conference. In my region Tshwane, the organisation was outstanding and as such you could not want to single out one iccident and want to elevate it to National Issue. Just like I said stop pretending to be who you not and come out clean. We have encourage those with different Sexual Preferences to come out and they did and they are supported by YCL, we will do the same when you declare your identity. I remain, A communist in deed, action and spirit. YCL Youth Vote ANC -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. Disclaimer:<br><br> This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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