Let me assure you the following Cde Sasco member:

1. It is not possible for Mr. Nkwanyane to provide the facts or his
good advocates to do so, as you say, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE FACTS ARE NOT
THERE

2. There is no way Mr. Nkwanyane or his good advocates as you say, can
provide facts because the intention was to decieve

3. It is not wrong to ask, but your demands are too factual and logical
to the extend that to engage the issues you raise, we risk exposing
ourselves to many members of this forum across, as people who lack just
a mere basic principle of political education

4. Otherwise the only thing we can do, which has become our political
trademark, wrongfully, is to "suspect" you of being COPE even if we know
very well that you are ANC card carry member, simply because we cant
engage.

5. I already said that i was there in Bloem, from Mpumalanga, the only
thing i can say in attempt to provide facts as you demand them, is to
say that Mr. Nkwanyane wholly misrepresented the ideals of which the
late DSG Cde Kgomotso stood, worse, unfortunately at Kgomotso's
funeral.

6. It is very moronic, it doesnt matter who you are.

7. I can only hope we will not tell you the following again, as a
result of our failure to engage the issues you raise

"Let Thabo Mbeki's financial backers upgrade your "Friends of
democracy" website to enable you to engage us, this is not your
platform".

8. I am speaking on behalf of those who attacked you.

Funky Maila

Mpumalanga Province



>>> [email protected] 01/28/09 9:33 AM >>>
Comrades

This is my third intervention. And I'm still not understood it seems. I
must
say I also find this quite strange. Because it seems there is a
deliberate
conscious effort not to understand what I'm raising.

I continue to bear the tirade of insults and I wont return the favour
no
matter how many times I get provoked.

*Since when is it wrong to ask quite frankly, to be given facts for
allegations made? I never said Nkwanyana the "Young Communist" is wrong
or
right. All I asked for is for him to humbly provide facts to his
allegations
so that we may engage on substance rather than the persona. Is that too
much
to ask? Why then are people jumping into conclusions about things that
are
not on the table? Is there a need to bring in other political events
and
matters taking place in the country on this matter? How do they relate
with
the facts I'm looking for? *
**
Is this about who gained or lost position in Umthatha? No, not at all.
Its
about the facts I'm looking for? Where are they?

If Mr Nkwanyana the "Young Communist" is made to taste his own medicine
what
is wrong with that?

And those who claim to have been there, they concur with me on the fact
that
indeed Mr Nkwanyana did what I said he did. And some do support his
utterances but; since he does not provide the facts I need, why cant
those
who agree with him provide the facts on his behalf? As good advocates?

So is it not intolerance to blame or try to shut down people who ask?
Why is
it wrong to ask for facts so that we can debate honestly and deal with
substance which from what I hear we are all hungry for? I for one cant
wait
hey!

Again my interest in this is not to defend anybody but to seek for
facts so
that the real debate may begin. Shall we get there comrades?

We must learn now and forever that when we speak we must be brave
enough to
be held accountable by the public. The innocent mourning public does
not
know the history of SASCO perhaps and therefore they were fed with lies
as
truth. What compensation is there for the public? Because the public
cannot
prove Mr Nkwanyana right or wrong? Its a dilemma of the highest
proportion
for me!

SM



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