You are very angry comrade and that makes me worried as this is just a
view which indeed should go through the structures of the ANC to decide
whether he should go for a second term.

________________________________

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sipho shandu
Sent: 09 June 2009 07:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: YCLSA STATEMENT ON COSATU'S CALL FOR
PRESIDENT JACOB ZUMA'S SECOND TERM


Cadre Samora and cadre Sakhile,

I must however say that i am very dissapointed at cadres who think they
can say whatever they want at any given point about an organisation
guided by policies and principles like the ANC.

When COSATU says that they want cadre Zuma to be president until 2019
they are contradicting themselves as well as the wishes of cadre ZUMA!
Prior to the elections Zuma said that he would only stand for one term
and thereafter make way for an incoming president of the ANC.

Vavi must just get his house in order. One moment he is striking and the
other moment he is speaking about a succession plan. What is he on
about?
What we should focus on right now is the issues of service delivery and
beating the financial meltdown crisis we currently faced with.

Let me pause cadres!


On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM, sakhile msane <[email protected]>
wrote:



        Well said comrade Samora
        
        I think the point you've just made is quiet clear, let us first
focus
        on the current issues at hand such "service delivery" and based
on
        what we see as the results then we as the masses can decide
whether we
        re instate him back to power based on the results he has
delivered
        during his tenure.
        
        The struggle continues, Amandla !!!
        
        Sakhile Msane
        

        On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Samora Sello<[email protected]>
wrote:
        > Comrades,
        >
        >
        >
        > Though one fully supports this call for President Jacob Zuma
to avail
        > himself for a second term, one wonders whether it is not
premature at this
        > stage, when there are so many other pressing issues to impress
upon him. It
        > would seem to me that given the newness of our current
government, the work
        > to consolidate all the changes within government structures
and the many
        > challenges ahead that this government will face as far as
implementation is
        > concerned (specially in the wake of the global financial
crisis), it would
        > be prudent to ensure and assist with the realization of the
current mandate.
        >
        >
        >
        > This call should and would then made at the right stage as the
would
        > inevitably be a need for continuity. I do believe that we need
to first and
        > foremost protect this new dispensation and assist to portray
it is one which
        > is about service and not "power". I watched JZ answering this
question
        > yesterday and felt that this call compromising the new agenda
and focus on
        > which is implementation. it has never been about him per se
but about what
        > he stands for which is primarily a kind of leadership that
allows all voices
        > to be heard and consensus building not only within the
alliance but the
        > south African society as a whole .
        >
        >
        >
        >  We must work to ensure that the policy pronouncements and
resolutions from
        > Polokwane are realized and the call for a second term will not
only be
        > forthcoming from the progressive forces but also from the
masses as well.
        >
        >
        >
        > I stand corrected!!
        >
        >
        >
        > Samora
        >
        > ________________________________
        >
        > From: [email protected]
        > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Castro
Ngobese
        > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:40 PM
        > To: [email protected]
        > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA STATEMENT ON COSATU'S CALL
FOR PRESIDENT
        > JACOB ZUMA'S SECOND TERM
        >
        >
        >
        > YCLSA statement on COSATU's call for President Jacob Zuma's
second term
        >
        > 08 June 2009
        >
        > The Young Communist League of South Africa [uFasimba] supports
the COSATU's
        > call for President Jacob Zuma to avail himself for the second
term as the
        > ANC and state President.
        >
        > We are interested in the ANC leadership because we want a
leadership that
        > will build and respect the Alliance. We will only stop being
interested in
        > the ANC leadership once the Alliance is over.  As long as the
Alliance is
        > still intact and we are expected to mobilise and organise for
the ANC
        > electoral victory during elections as one of our key common
programme to
        > retain the ANC alliance in the state, our interest in the ANC
leadership
        > will remain unchanged.  As independent, albeit inter-dependent
strategic
        > allies, we influence each other, and therefore there is no
contradiction
        > between our views on the ANC leadership and the ANC's
organisational
        > autonomy.
        >
        >  It is our view that the ANC leadership under President Jacob
Zuma has shown
        > significant respect for the Alliance and the ANC itself.
Notwithstanding a
        > number of challenges in the conceptualisation and
implementation of the
        > reconfigured Alliance, particularly in some provinces, Allies
relations have
        > significantly improved since the 2007 ANC National Conference
in Polokwane.
        >
        > Our experience in the last 15 years has taught us that we can
no longer be
        > spectators in the theatre of class struggle within the ANC
when some people
        > are plotting day and night to capture the ANC for their own
narrow BEE
        > elitist interests which have nothing to do with what the ANC
stands for. We
        > should also make it clear that our support for the ANC cannot
be
        > unconditional. We will continue to support a working class
bias ANC in
        > practice - nothing else!
        >
        > We are also aware that there are those who are not opposed to
the ANC
        > President leadership as such, but cannot wait to be ANC
officials as soon as
        > possible.  Whilst affirming their rights to stand for any
position, we just
        > want to signal to them that we do not agree with them. It is
too early for
        > them to start wetting their appetite for power.
        >
        > We urge those who disagree with us on this question to come
out and disagree
        > with us on substance. And stop concealing their views under
bureaucratic and
        > procedural arguments which hinge on when and who should raise
this question.
        > We do not need political referees to tell us when to air our
views on any
        > matter.
        >
        > We also note the growing attack on the SACP Chairperson and
ANC Secretary
        > General - Gwede Mantashe by social forces within society and
the ANC itself.
        > Notwithstanding our healthy differences with him as a leader
of the ANC, we
        > would like to re-affirm our confidence in him as the ANC
Secretary General
        > and will urge him to avail himself for the position of the ANC
Secretary
        > General.
        >
        > Clarity on these matters will enable all of us to focus all
our resources
        > and energies on building our organisational and state capacity
to implement
        > our electoral mandate.
        >
        > We will agitate and mobilise our structures including our ANC
on these
        > matters.
        >
        > Issues by YCLSA Head Office
        >
        > COSATU House
        >
        > 1 - 5 Leyds Street, Braamfontein
        >
        > Contact:
        >
        > Castro Ngobese
        >
        > YCLSA National Spokesperson - 082 567 3557
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