>>> Stanley Gaba 2009/08/13 03:26 PM >>>
I had hoped that comrades will raise issues, but it seems that Comrade Zat  has 
touched the raw nerved. I cannot agree more with you on this one. Yesterday, as 
we were playing Serbia, I listened attentively to the song and observed the 
behaviour of the spectators. One conclusion can be drawn: is that this 
so-called national anthem is not a national anthem but just another song. It 
needs revision and urgently for that matter.
 
Firstly at most it plays up to about 5 minutes the longest ever national 
anthem. No wonder it was half played in the ConCaf. Remember that the national 
anthem invokes and rallies every one to a particular cause, but ours 
de-mobilizes people especially during sports games.
 
Secondly, the lyrics do not sing to the harmony and tune. The Enoch Sontonga's 
song is the cry of the African child to the Mveliqangi, Qamada and 
Tlatlamatsholo to preserve our nation. It is cry of an African child to 
Almighty to strengthen our society against the evils of the apartheid junta. 
Yet the other version is a different call altogether. It becomes apparent the 
fusion of the two songs will invoke different emotions to the two nation. Did I 
hear correctly when the then President Thabo Mbeki talking about the two nation 
thesis/theory. this is a perfect example of it.
 
Quite frankly, Comrade Zat cannot be right more that this, we need a revision 
of this. That is why in rugby matches will always find spectators that are 
still disagreeable to the main cause. This "Die Stem" means something different 
to them than to us.
 
Hayi, IQabane liphethe. Mayiguqulwe lento. Mayitshintshwe madoda!  
 


>>> Zat  Makaba 7/24/2009 11:14 AM >>>
Every time I hear the so called national anthem I just get sick. It's sickening 
! It sickens me to the core ! For how long will we stoop so low to allow Enoch 
Sontonga's great song to be likened to the apartheid song of the Botha - Malan 
junta ? It is not a unifying song as we are made to believe because it serves 
two nations - one black and one white. That combined song does not reflect what 
we purport to be - ONE NATION. Instead it continues to remind us of how we 
allowed Sontonga's creativity to be compromised and subdued. I cannot just 
imagine how many of our heroes and heroines are turning in their graves.
 
This compromise is killing me !  

>>> Mzukisi Ronyuza 7/24/2009 9:57 AM >>>
Comrades,

When I started all it was all about "LUNCH" I hope you will all understand. Not 
lunch but LUNCH. It is from this lunch that we are going to deliberate more on 
a range of issues that are raised in the electronic media by some of us. 
Compartmentation and security of information. 

BRING YOUR LUNCH LET'S PLEASE SIT AND DELVE DEEPER INTO ISSUES WITHOUT 
PROTOCOLS, BUREAUCRACY OR RESTRICTIONS EXCEPT TIME. LUNCH HERE IS AT 13hOO.

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