[YCLSA Discussion] Left-Wing Babies & Petty Discussions -- Ian Beddowes

[Mduduzi H Vilakazi]

Cde Ian,   No one in this forum is excluded from raising issues. It is therefore not correct to blame others in discussing their issues. If you have en issue raise it we will definitely engage it. Thats the simplest principle of the forum.   Furthermore, there is no prescription on the kind of issues to be engaged. Neither is there a directive for topics to be engaged. It will therefore be incorrect to assume that the issues discussed were useless and did not build our revolutionary conscious.  I am today better than yesterday.   Lets raise issues without fear or favour. >>> "Kanego, Clarence Thete" <kcth...@gmail.com> 22/09/2009 09:41 >>> Ian, As one of participants to this forum, I feel offended for one these reasons: 1. The matter around the purchase of a luxurious vehicle by the Minister of Higher Education who happens to serve in the capacity of the General Secretary of the SACP would obviously draw interest into debating as to whether was it correct for him to accept the such from most of us since there were opportunistic attacks relieved by enemies of the left like the DA who unfortunately were singing the same song with our tried and tested ally, the working class(COSATU). 2. The General Secretary is an Office of the political head of the SACP and it cannot be petty that we discuss such a matter that will stem around it. 3. As the discussions went on they moved away from the mere questions of political and ideological morality of our Leader by some in the forum to an indepth engagement on things like the "New Tendency" in the Movement. 4. While one acknowledges the serious matters that Ian raises as of pivotal importance that we in the forum should be focusing on but to call this matter "petty discussion" I find it offending to all Comrades in the Forum to be reduced to "Left Wing-Babies" after all it is not all of us here who are Young Communists. While allowing and accepting decent views remains the over-arching principle of this forum, I strongly feel that you need to apologies to this forum for insulting our intelligence! Amandla! On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Beddowes <beddo...@anc.org.za> wrote: Having fairly recently come fro Zimbabwe, where there are huge issues of class, race, imperialism and Pan-Africanism, I am gobsmacked by the waste of time spent in this forum by discussions on motor cars and other trivia. There are major issues such as rural development, illegal evictions and education for which we need to find solutions -- and that is only in South Africa. There are further issues, hardly touched on, as to why, 15 years into democracy, has a South African President only now visited Angola, which provided bases for MK at a massive cost to the Angolan people? Why did COSATU try to block the Zimbabwean border in solidarity with the Anglo-American Axis? Why, when the South African struggle was assisted by neighbouring countries, do South Africans, more especially those who claim to be Marxists, want to eat alone? The only person who I have heard speak out publicly on these issues is President Jacob Zuma in the speech he made at last years MK Commemoration in Bloemfontein -- if ther are others -- I will be interested to hear more. Pan-Africanism is not for the PAC only. Most of all, I am horrified by the lack of kowledge on the Second Congo War, the biggest war since World War 2 in terms of the loss of human lives. But after all they were only Makwerekwere, and its far more important for South Africans to discuss whether or not a minister spent too much on a car. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to yclsa-eom-forum@googlegroups.com or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email yclsa-eom-forum-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. 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