@Mzukisi
 
"A mark of an educated (hu)man is to entertain a thought without
necessarily accepting it", so noted Aristotle.  This quote is my point
of brief entry to this debate because it means that while I entertain
and understand Commissar Mzukisi's view (captured below) and the angle
from which he is coming from but I disagree on some of the issues that
he has raised.  However, I do agree with him to a very limited level.
 
Cde Mzukusi correctly contends, hence I agree with him, that "...it is
crucial that all members of the ANC defend our Secretary General because
that would be tantamount to defending the ANC!".  The main reason that
makes me to agree with this assertion is that the attack to any
revolution ordinarily comes in a form of gimmicks aimed at attacking its
leadership.  In other words, attacking individual and/or collective
leaders of the revolution amounts to attacking the revolution itself. 
However, this does not mechanically reduces the importance of
inner-party democracy which includes self-criticism and constructive
criticism.  
 
The above equally does not mean that - in pursuit of a 'genuine'
revolutionary responsibility to defend leaders and the revolution- we
must  then think that leaders are immune from human errors like publicly
scolding or should I say barking back at other comrades.  And worse
under the official cap of the very same office (see media statement
released on behalf of the ANC SG) that ought to transcend beyond cheap
ego and emotions thus being exemplary in order to unite the
organization. It also does not invalidate the CC (compliment and
contradict where necessary)approach as employed by the YL and other
progressive structures.  It also does not give comrades a right to
accuse other leaders of the very same of aspiring or conspiring "... to
ascend to the top echelons of resources".  
 
To say the least, this line of reasoning reminds me of the "holier than
thou attitude" employed by the force that was defeated in Polokwane in
that that force was also accusing the other force (the so-called genuine
ANCist) of wanting to "ascend to the top echelons of resources".  But
what was funny and ironic is that they (the defeated force) were
accusing others of the game that they know best.   Perhaps they wanted
to keep the capitalist based spoils only to themselves.  So in sense it
was or still is the question "...these jealousies..." other than
defending anything.  And comrades must no fool us.
 
As for the warning from comrade Deputy President, comrades please we
need to be honest with ourselves here before we try to be honest to the
debate itself.  Comrades, I do not even remember when but I know that
school visits had always been part of necessary programs piloted by many
progressive structures.  Some of us have and continue to lead different
progressive formations at a branch level hence can certainly confirm
that school visits have always been conducted and yielded many positive
outcomes.  
 
Here I speak of identifying a variety of challenges that village/rural
schools in particular  faces. I speak of preventing principals who
always want to undermine no school fee principle.  I speak of preventing
some teachers from chasing children simply because they dropped out the
previous year because of things like pregnancy etc.  I speak of branch
interventions, after these visits, of trying to write letters after
letters and phone calls and after phones to relevant authorities in
order to address problems identified during these very same school
visits that today, we are told- to our surprise- must not be attended to
simply because Malema visited some schools.  
 
Is the hate or should I say pure jealousy for Malema to intense that
motive behind school visits becomes irrelevant?  Are we, from now on,
saying school visits must be conducted after school hours where both
teachers and learners want to go home and prepare for the next day? If
not, what are we exactly saying dear principled and r
evolutionary
conscious comrades? Is Malema the issue or something else is going which
we do not know yet? Is it only the ANC SG that must be defended? If not,
why do we think what we are doing is not also a direct attack to the
twin-tasks 'struggle' as advocated by YL and its leadership? If yes, is
the issue about the SG office or the individual (which can come and go
any time when branches see fit) who happens to also be the Party Chair?
(which, by the way, I do not have a problem).
 
By the way, I agree that teachers must teach and learners must be in
class but it would be a formalist thought to expect that this would be
followed like ten commandments.  By the way, we are in a revolution here
not some formal and straight line that must be adhered to even if that
means the outcomes might be more perfect were we to take a tactical
detour.  And I am sure comrades knows this better than myself.  While we
have principle that we must be firm on but concrete practicality might
require some flexibility for the greater good.
 
Finally, let me try to conclude by saying that there is no one who is
more revolutionary than the other.  After all, what could seem, sound or
be seen to be more revolutionary has more capacity to be- and time
always tells- counter-revolutionary.  So please comrades lets stop
lambasting one another and trying to create stories about people with
ambitions because that has a potential of projecting ourselves as people
who are threatened that the room with spoils is too small hence let me
label those as too ambitious so that I be perceived as a less ambitious
comrade.  If you are not ambitious what are you? After all, we are all
have ambitions of seeing or have three interrelated contradictions being
resolved and in a process our skills and services will be utilized.  So
what's wrong with that? Leave Killerman Malema alone comrades please and
you are too political conscious to debate about isms than Killerman.
 
I pause
 
T.S. Zondi
YL branch Sec

>>> Makatse Mzukisi <[email protected]> 1/28/2010 4:05 PM >>>

The recent wave against the Secretary General of the ANC, comrade Gwede
Mantashe, is a serious threat to the stability of the ANC. It is crucial
that all members of the ANC defend our Secretary General because that
would be tantamount to defending the ANC! We cannot keep silent when we
know that those who hoped to ascend to the top echelons of resources
during the Zuma administration, are now frustrated because comrade
Nobhala has tightened screws and they want him out.
 
The truth is that among those who called for leadership change in
Polokwane, there were those who had hoped that once that leadership was
gone, it was to be their turn at the spoils of power. However, they used
a certain rhetoric that was to count against them because many of us
took it seriously the call that we must fight corruption with every
sinew of our able bodies. That the ANC must prioritise the poor and the
working people as the most vulnerable sections of our society was (and
still is) for many of us a line of march. Comrade SG represents the
aspirations of many of the poor and working masses of our population.
This anger towards him is an attempt to deflect the ANC from its
historic mission of creating a better life for all, particularly for the
poor and the working masses of this country.
 
This wave of resource-hungry comrades has also converged with that of
those whose political ambitions threaten to tear the ANC into pieces.
This convergence has been laid bare during the course of last week. The
defiance of the political authority of the SG office and that of the ANC
by a NEC member like Tokyo Sexwale over his report; the visit to
Kgutsong School by Julius Malema and his comments afterwards on the
warning by the Deputy President of the ANC and the country, comrade
Kgalema Mothlanthe, was not a coincidence but a signal that comrades are
prepared to do anything to get their *share* and fulfill their
ambitions. It must be a wake-up call to all of us 
ordinary members of
the ANC that evil thrives where good men and women do nothing. 
 
The ANC needs its members to defend it during this period towards our
centenary in 2012. That conference in 2012 will either ruin the ANC
because of these uncontrollable ambitions; or unite all of us because as
ordinary members of the ANC we would have refused to be led by those
whose interests are inimical to those of the ANC. And because we would
have stood up and said: Hands Off Our Secretary General!    
 
 
Mzukisi Makatse
 
 


From:[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thabiso
Radebe
Sent: 28 January 2010 11:24 AM
To: Cassey Madikgetla; Pogisho Seokamo;
[email protected] 
Subject: Fwd: [YCLSA Discussion] Article from Sowetan

 


Maybe we must after all agree, here  we are  dealing with a  paranoia.


For how long , how  many times . I still don't buy  the clumsy  excuses
 of us having to  allow  Youth Leagues  members or its  leaders to go on
confrontational course with its own ANC senior leadership. To crown it
all  even ignoring  comradely  advices  given  by our Mass Democratic
Movement  structures.

 

Malema suffers from accumulation of bubble wealth after effects, His
capitalist handlers keep so busy in return for his cooption into a 
patronage driven politics.

Innocent and unsuspecting loyal ANC members with thier cult for power
by hook or crook .

 

In anyway ANC YL legacy will remain in tact once democratic process
have sought out the Bully Vague Malema Animal Farm syndrome. 

With  all due respect this ill-discipline practice has been
unnecessarily tolerated   and incorrectly allowed to go too far. This
must come to an end .

 For sanity to prevail all sober and visionary ANC- YL  members
themselves have to recall this rascal.

The constitution makes a provision to remedy such conditions of 
unbearable destructive mode, for me the organizational cohesion
,strength to provide necessary leadership should be exchanged for
anything not even insults. 

All structures starting with provinces must wake up and save ANC YL
from degenerating any further. 

 

This  move has absolutely nothing to do with   factional tendencies 
but a principled matter if we really  value the undisputed political
contributions made by previous ANC YL leadership collectives .The MALEMA
generation must  be reminded   that they are no different from thier
predecessors they  seem to have consciously taken a  destructive tone,
with so very less positive things to be remembered for. 

 

Malema disrespecting youth league members by running the organizations
affairs  like unguided missile this is cheap politicking with  falls
notion to  capture  cheap political  fame. His forever  in the media for
wrong reasons .  

 

We  expect ANC YL that's  responsibility in the effort of being good
custodians, I am not advocating  macro management but we need sound
leadership to walk and talk youth development not this sensationalism
act .How far is the Malema- NEC collective  in implementing the
Mangaung/ Bloemfontein  conference resolutions ?

 

 What the basis of ANC YL structures current  Program of Action ?  

Stop pursuing politics of opposition this no different from the cope or
da of this world who just go on rampage  abusing our hard fought
democracy . ANC elected leaders deserve to given all due respect no
matter how we may differ with thier views .. 

 

 But light of this reality  might all be equally be  guilty for doing
nothing to stop anarchy that being entrenched within our structures  ANC
YL being used as launching pad .

 

Comrades history is going to punish us very harsh for succumbing to
this type of  battering politicking a reminiscent of the PAC COPE 
rebellions.

There is nothing   revolutionary about Malema drama but only
scandalous. 

 

But we are also faced with the big challenge of going beyond Malema
sage  to establish how many of  other  Malemas  out ther
e
misrepresenting  ANC internal  democratic space for members to express
thier views .

 

What informs  this persistence  culture of arrogant defiance on the
part of Malema? 

 

ALUTA CONTINUA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

>>> <[email protected]> 2010/01/28 09:20 AM >>>


From:
Sandile Ngcobo

Comments:

I wonder how does these visits benefits scholars, and uplift the
culture of learning and teaching; or its another publicity stunt. I
understand only; The Right To Learn Campaign.



Keep Malema out of the schools - Kgalema

DEPUTY President Kgalema Motlanthe yesterday sent a message to school
principals to lock out ANC Youth League president Julius Malema.

Click here to go to the article (
http://www.sowetan.co.za/article.aspx?id=1108641 ) 
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