Isaac, maby you dd not understand the question. here it is again Could someone please brief me on the progress/outcomes of the Strike/mass action for 'free' education?that was led by SASCO?
>>> "Isaac Luthuli" <[email protected]> 3/17/2010 7:14 PM >>> People must understand their own organizations not excitedly speak about things they not understand. Some when they came to university were in line about understanding the integrity of MDM structures >>> "Msawenkosi Sodwele" <[email protected]> 3/17/2010 6:58 PM >>> cdes Could someone please brief me on the progress/outcomes of the Strike/mass action for 'free' education?that was led by SASCO? Revolutionary Regards Msa Sodwele t Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:42:45 +0200 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] DISGUST over SASCO's welcome of the Equality Court ruling on Malema Cdes It is interesting to note that when SASCO supported cde Malema a while back on a different issue, there was no noise. Now that SASCO seems to not support him there is noise. I think that the NDR is really getting diverted and everything is becoming a joke, where people remain cdes and friends only if they utter what one agrees with. The minute they disagree with one, then a battle line has been drawn. Regards, TG From: bongani makhubu To: [email protected] Sent: Wed Mar 17 14:19:21 SAST 2010 Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] DISGUST over SASCO's welcome of the Equality Court ruling on Malema Comrade Mduduzi Your unequivocal assertion on this issue does not only help clarify the subject matter but it subsequently assists on the necessary political education it times of need. I think we have recently witnessed a high level political decomposition whenever an issue touches Malema, comrades reason far below political normality. It is only myopic consideration that can lead one to fail to observe distinction between independent and autonomy and it?s relatively ludicrous to attach a statement uttered by a component of PYA as ?cheap politicking for SASCO to position itself? for whatever reason. Trying to maliciously find a mischievous link between the SASCO statement and YCL becomes a groundless prophecy which directly nullifies the contextualisation of the conviction. SASCO has raised its independent viewpoint and it will continue to do so with less exception to 2011 politics. We refused to be co-opted to selective views that conferences are a result of particular statements issued by any of our MDM formations. We must build a Great Wall of China to such a subjective understanding and condemn it (with substance) whenever it manifests itself with the sole aim of developing our cadres. I submit Bongani (Bazuka) On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]> wrote: ? Comrade Lone Maxwell, ? In the content of the SASCO statement what is in incorrect or misconstrued. SASCO is the only political and coherent voice of reason in the youth politics?in 2010.?The maturity of its content?should be celebrated. That you cry foul?and?see 'wrongness' in what you perceive as an attack on the PYA component and your accusation of SASCO of 'hate speech' is an incitement and you go on to pre-empt a 2010?scene.?SASCO is not a unit?of the ANCYL, it is an independent formation within the PYA and the broader movement. You also speak as if your are privy to this gathering where Malema is said to have hurled these unpolitical and unrevolutionary expletives.? ? I don't have problems when?Malema,s star?is waning but I have a problem when the PYA star and that of the movement?is waning because of?selective amnesia by?people who are blinded by personality cult, politics of patronage and use the masses in their ascension to personal fiefdoms. ? SASCO statement is in tandem the current happening in the country?and is?in tandem with what this revolutionary epoch requires. What is you input on gender and women related issues.?It is about time that the President?of the ANCYL understand the national question, gender struggles in particular.?This era my leader does not need time-bomb but sound and seasoned?revolutionary understudies?who we can look up to in the time of need and when our senior and ageing leader are tired?to carry the baton forward. FOR NOW TO BE HONEST YCL AND SASCO HAVE NOT DEGENERATED AND HAVE A POOL OF LEADERS THAT CAN TAKE OVER ANYTIME AND AT ANY LEVEL IN THIS REVOLUTION, ALSO COSAS HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE ANOTHER POWER-BROKER.? Amandla!!!! ? ? On 3/16/10, Lone Maxwell <[email protected]> wrote: I read with utter disgust the celebratory statement by SASCO welcoming the court verdict by the Equality court on Julius Malema. My initial thought on the matter?was to question how a supposedly progressive student formation can ever celebrate a verdict on a complaint laid by the liberal and racist Afriforum on one of its own. How does a PYA component resort to joining the opposition in its attack against another PYA leader within the MDM. Perhaps more puzzling is that the alleged ?hate speech? was said at a SASCO gathering, and SASCO as an organization failed to correct or reprimand Julius at that very gathering last year, let alone raise its dissatisfaction. Instead his articulations where met with delight and cheers from the audience including its leadership. This mischievousness with the truth or sudden amnesia of the occurrence of events by SASCO is questionable, and can only be deduced to reflect the highest form of grandstanding and opportunism. The only conclusion one gathers from this is that the leadership of SASCO is in a desperate attempt or quest to position itself along the current 2012 debacles (inspite of the 16th National Congress resolution against such), to the extent that it dishonestly conjures up and clings to an event in history it had no problems with. The tone and attacks on the ANCYL in the latest press releases sent under the name of SASCO from the YCL Press Release account is perhaps a guiding clue to the real misdemeanor behind the monkey business. ? Comradely yours Lone Maxwell Northern Cape -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. 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