Apologies cde Howard the recent mail that I sent I referred to you mistakebly so, I wanted to refer to cde Sipho Shandu
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, sipho shandu <[email protected]> wrote: From: sipho shandu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] FW: Max says it . . . To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 4:49 PM Cadre Howard, Please do not loose the plot! I seriously believe that you vehemently denying the fact that the person who occupies the position of president within the YL is a stumbling block towards attaining the mandate of the YL from its constituencies. Indeed malema contradicts himself when he says that he represents the people. We have made malema the president and what has he done for us besides stealing and hijacking our development. He has further managed to bring upheaval to our communities by declaring war on whites! Our Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela calmed us and taught us to reconcile with each other and even though it was hard but nevertheless we did. Now 16yrs down the line, a kapital (malema) in the form of a socialist appearance comes and undoes what uTATA did. What does malema know about the YL anyway? Who is he? Out of all the former presidents of the YL, none has ever been so stupid as malema is! I can list presidents from Mandela to Mbalula but I cant point even a single one who can be compared to this power mongering pompass lumpen! So chief, Please think before you utter something in writing! General Shonalanga (KZN) On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:30 PM, howard matjomane <[email protected]> wrote: Cde, you know sometimes we need to look things in both sides and draw the conclusion for readers to judge.I'm of the opinion that the article is one sided and of no doubt jealousy is showing itself here. World itself wether in bussiness or in politics is dirty and many dicisions are questionable- wether a decision to appoint employees,decision to award tender, decision to leave milllions of people dying in hunger to protect few individuals -Decision to negate revolutionary cause to become bantustan minister-Decision to publish for muximusation of profits at expense of millions of people trapped in extended poverty-decision to allow relations of production in the hands of few multinational congloramates-A decision to allow pastor to be multibillionaire at expense of poor Church members-A decision to kill human life and regard it as collateral damage- We cannot blame Julius for all this but we must look at the root cause of all this -I would love for max and his elite club to come to an understanding that it is not about individuals is about the social system in place that needs to be eradicated.Max is actual in good position to spread the right message that the enemy number one is capitalism instead of his exhibition of jealousy towards black youth. Why cant he start with his imperialist friends ,America and Britain to stop killing the inocent to start recognising that human life is important,to dismantle their hidden agenda in WTO,World Bank and IMF.So that people of the world can live decent life. Why cant he start with himself wether in practise was he really a successfull canditate in his job interview-or was just because he can speak lekker fake english from the greedy university such as takkies and UCT. The poor and workers wants Malema ,they want him to tell the world the truth about the "Industrial Question" that even the Union leaders,Govermet and State officials including the Ruling Party claiming to represent workers and poor have failed to deal with. If it is crime for Malema to accumulate millions then let him be arrested and leave the killers of this world e.g America,Britain in their beautifull upmarket suburbs. If max would in his day to day tell his baas to allocate bigger space in showing the world the ugly things America and Britain has done to millions of people across the globe then he would be in some way contributing in eliminating the systemm that seek to undermine human life. showing us the fruits of that system would not help us in any way- "Economic Freedom in Our lifetime" Howard On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:31 PM, sipho shandu <[email protected]> wrote: Well, this is what the world never wanted to hear but how sure are you of this? May you substantiate this? I dont know what to say! On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Tuis Dumisani <[email protected]> wrote: Comments about this "The possibility that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just"- Abraham Lincoln From: Matsha Michael Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:29 AM To: Matlhoko, Olebile; Zwane David; Mqoboza Zondi; Abrahams Andrew; Mathonsi Alex; Ncobela Themba; Masoeu Adam; Mhlafu Sandi; Swartz Lebogang; Makandula Sizwe; Shai Mosele; Tuis Dumisani; Makhani Donald; Kok Gilbert; Mantyi Godfrey; Champion Gaylin; Chakane Gilbert; Mokgatle Gosiame; Hurst Terence; '[email protected]'; Wessels Hendry; Johnson Jarrod; Matuka Jack; Tope John; '[email protected]'; Kistoo Claudio; Kumalo Wandile; Kgomo Thipane; [email protected]; Lebitso Mokete; Motloung Lebusa Meshack; Letebele Lawrence; Bungxu Wellman; Fredericks Ettiennie; Manyaka Reuben; Meza Reginald; Motlekar Reyaad; [email protected]; Macdonald Tebogo; Motlogelwa Thabiso; Itumeleng Ogopoleng; Pinetown Zarin; Abba Khatija Subject: FW: Max says it . . . What about De Beers operated in South Africa during apartheid and basically sponsored the murderous, destructive and racist actions of the colonial/apartheid repressive regime. The blame game is a contagious one. Blaming creates a culture of fear and makes us want to do anything to protect ourselves. And that includes blaming innocent bystanders. We all remember that feeling of utter helplessness when as children we got the blame for things we didn't do. As adults, even though it is difficult, we should make sure of our facts before we lash out and accuse people of things. And in the same vein, before we know what the truth is, and sometimes even afterwards, it is never a good idea to be the source of gossip. THIS IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!Is it true? MAX SAYS IT . . . --------------------------------------------------------- What has become of the ANC? ------------------------------------------------------------ The ANC has become an insult to all those who carry its membership cards and those who voted for it last April - and to the many who died for it over the years. Yes, sir, I mean you too, you who loves sending angry messages, often with accusations of racism, to the News24.com comments section whenever anyone criticises the government or those in Luthuli House. What has become of the self-respect of this once proud organisation that was formed 98 years ago and brought us giants such as Sol Plaatje, Albert Luthuli, OR Tambo, Walter Sisulu, Chris Hani and Nelson Mandela? If I were a member of the ANC, I would stand up and demand that my leadership immediately deal with Youth League president Julius Malema with his gangster lifestyle, with his blatant lies and with his insults to the media and all others who don't like him. Come on, the entire nation knows that you cannot buy a R814 000 AMG Merc, a R250 000 Breitling watch, two houses worth more than R5m, a dressing room full of Fabiani and other designer clothes, a Louis Vuitton handbag worth R4 800 (yes, Juju wears handbag) and who knows what else on a salary of at most R40 000 (he said the other day his salary, rumoured to have been R20 000, had at least been doubled recently). His monthly payment on his bonds of R2.35m on the two houses (it is there for anyone to see in the Deeds Office) alone cost him R23 462 a month. Life is expensive I have a very good idea about how expensive life is if your name (or your benefactor) is not Tokyo Sexwale or Nicky Oppenheimer. I live in a modest home in a working class Cape Town neighbourhood, I drive a four-year-old Peugeot station wagon, I buy my clothes from Woolworths and Cape Union Mart, I have a six-year-old Swatch watch I bought on a sale and I have very little spare cash at the end of every month. (I don't even have a handbag.) Yet I am double Juju's age, I have two university degrees (plus an honorary one), I have been a newspaper editor, a television executive and a university lecturer and I have published eight very successful books. Malema has a bad matric and absolutely no training for anything apart from political rabble-rousing. (Oh, ok, I only have degrees in law and political science, but Juju has an honorary doctorate in Tenderpreneurship.) Come on, we all know Malema was lying when he said he didn't have anything to do with any companies in business with local and provincial government. Not only is his name still registered on those companies' books, he even declared (repeatedly) that he had resigned as director of SGL Engineering Projects when he was elected to his Youth League position - but SGL only came into existence after that date! Stealing from the poor? Malema doesn't even respect the public enough to manufacture credible lies. He says he's never seen a million rand, but he put down more than R3m IN CASH for the two houses he bought. We read in City Press on Sunday that the Malema companies with state tenders are notorious for their shoddy work and bad treatment of workers. Some of the township bridges they got millions to build have collapsed within months after completion. Is that not stealing from the poor? Sies! Malema insulted every promising young black South African when he rejected questions about his lavish lifestyle with the accusation that his critics "just didn't want to see a black diamond shine". I know quite a few "black diamonds" in business, academics and the media world. They are shining, and would shine even if they lived in New York or London, because of their own intelligence and hard work, not because they can get their hands on public money. Pack of lies So, my dear reader-with-the-ANC-membership-card, which part of this disgraceful pack of lies did you not get? Or has the ANC stooped so low that you're happy with Jacob Zuma's response that Malema isn't a civil servant, so he can do what he wants? He wasn't enough of a private citizen when the state decided to award him official police protection and a whole set of bodyguards, costing the taxpayer hundreds of thousands. Remember what he said at his press conference last week? That he had complete access to the president and was close to every minister and premier? Perhaps we should start investigating the role of some of these "friends" of Malema to see where they fit in. Coming to think of it, perhaps Malema is simply a decoy, diverting the attention of the media and the public away from the real gangster capitalists in government and the ANC. Everyone who reads some of the comments on South African websites would know how many despicable white racists there still are in our country. Malema is reinforcing every caricature bigots have in their narrow minds of how Africans with power behave. 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