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Amadla Thobela Mahijana E.C 083 378 7230 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected] > wrote: > > I think that Mr Mahijana had better withdraw that accusation very quickly > and give us a full and unreserved apology. > > > > > On 23 August 2010 12:34, Benjamin Seitlhamo < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Dominic, >> >> >> >> Is Mr. Thobela Mahijana suggesting that, the SACP cadres joined government >> not to serve the people of our country, but with the main aim of swelling >> the party’s coffers??? Please correct me if Im wrong... >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dominic Tweedie >> *Sent:* 23 August 2010 12:22 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU at SACP's throat? >> >> >> >> "we took a resolution that our Provincial Secretaries together with the SG >> must take public offices since the Party is under financial constraints" >> >> >> >> Really? >> >> >> >> When? Where? >> >> >> >> Are you sure you are not dreaming? >> >> >> >> >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 August 2010 12:07, Thobela Mahijana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ei I once raised this issue once in my reply to the cde who was asking , >> when socialism or communism >> >> will come. It is no secret in the Party that our SG since joined the >> public office his critics on the ANC >> >> are well spoken and selective of events as if there's something he doesnt >> want to disturb and we usually >> >> fall short as a Party to condone such acts within , I think its high time >> we sat our house in order. >> >> This rot is all over our Provinces, I know we took a resolution that our >> Provincial Secretaries together with the SG >> >> must take public offices since the Party is under financial constraints, >> but never said they should serve >> >> the interest of the master above that of our masses. >> >> >> >> I could be out of order cdes but I stand corrected >> >> >> >> Thobela Mahijana >> >> Amahlathi >> >> Eastern Cape >> >> 083 378 7230 >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Dominic.Tweedie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> [image: Sunday Independent] >> >> >> *Unions turn on SACP * >> >> >> >> *Moshoeshoe Monare, Sibusiso Ngalwa and Gcwalisile Khanyile, Sunday >> Independent, 22 August 2010* >> >> Labour federation Cosatu and the South African Communist Party - the >> one-time left-wing allies of President Jacob Zuma - are at each others' >> throats, with labour leaders accusing communists of failing to support the >> crippling public sector wage strike. >> >> Zuma on Saturday expressed anger at the strike, largely driven by >> Cosatu-affiliated unions, and went to the extent of accusing striking union >> members of opposing his government the same way they opposed apartheid. >> >> Separate statements from leaders of the tripartite alliance showed >> increasingly strained relations - a far cry from the Polokwane united front >> of Zuma, South African Communist Party leader Blade Nzimande, and Cosatu >> general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi. >> >> Vavi has increasingly become critical of the Zuma administration, while >> Nzimande has toned down anti-government rhetoric since he assumed a position >> in Zuma's cabinet. >> >> In a statement that cast a spotlight on Nzimande's apparently conflicting >> roles as SACP leader and Higher Education minister, Cosatu said it was >> extremely unhappy that communist leaders were pre-occupied with their >> positions in government and failed to do the work of the party. But the SACP >> shot back, saying the unionists were whining like "hungry babies". >> >> Zuma, on the other hand, told a gathering in KwaZulu-Natal on Saturday >> that the disruption of essential services by workers was "foreign" to the >> culture of the ANC and the alliance. >> >> "Even during the dark days of (the) liberation (struggle), this never >> happened. When people were striking, they would still allow a nurse or a >> doctor to go inside the hospital. They knew how critical it was to save >> lives and you should bear this in mind," Zuma said. >> >> "You should struggle in a way that also values people's lives so that in >> future when you embark on a strike, you will still get the same support. >> Your actions should not bring pain to other people's lives. >> >> "This will taint our history and legacy when you have women giving birth >> on the street. We cannot afford to deviate from the good values the >> liberation struggle taught us." >> >> The government won an interdict against violent striking workers on >> Saturday. Cosatu said it regrets the disruption of services, but it was >> fully behind the continued strike. >> >> The president of the union federation S'dumo Dlamini on Saturday said >> Cosatu did not condone acts of violence by the strikers, but the striking >> public servants were being provoked by management and police officers. >> >> "It is a wake up call to government, that they should stop fuelling the >> situation by the statements they are making, and instead come up with a >> revised offer," Dlamini said. >> >> In an earlier interview Dlamini said there was a need for SACP leaders "to >> dedicate more time to party work, not moonlighting". >> >> All SACP senior leaders have full-time jobs either in government or in the >> ANC, and this was endorsed by the communist party's special congress last >> year. >> >> Nzimande's deputy, Jeremy Cronin, is deputy transport minister; party >> chairman Gwede Mantashe is ANC secretary-general; his deputy Joyce >> Moloi-Moropa is an ANC MP; and SACP treasurer Pumulo Masaulle is ANC Eastern >> Cape chairman and an MEC. >> >> Dlamini said there were also concerns that the SACP had been quiet on >> issues affecting workers and the working class - especially the strike - >> since its senior leadership joined government. >> >> "I have only seen one statement from the (SACP) on the public sector >> strike," he said. >> >> But SACP spokesman Malesela Maleka said this was not true. "We issued >> several statements. Do they want us to issue statements every day?" he >> asked. >> >> National Union of Mine Workers secretary general Frans Baleni said they >> were concerned about the SACP's lack of "capacity and its inability to >> articulate and mobilise". >> >> Nehawu general secretary Fikile Majola said they were worried by Nzimande >> and Cronin's diminished roles in the party. "The SACP is not coming out as >> strongly in the public as it did in the past," said Majola. >> >> It is not the first time that Cosatu has raised its concerns about the >> SACP's toned-down attitude. >> >> The labour federation raised this in one of its documents earlier this >> year, citing Zuma's State of the Nation address - which was fiercely >> criticised by Cosatu - as an example that the SACP had changed its tune. >> >> However, Maleka said it was "inaccurate" for Cosatu to say the SACP did >> not react to Zuma's speech. "Is it because they didn't like our reaction?" >> he said. >> >> "The decision (to send SACP leaders to government) was a collective >> decision... If the constitutional structures of the SACP need to be >> reviewed, we will continue to do so... But people cannot whine like hungry >> babies," he said on Saturday. >> >> Cosatu and the SACP have always been on the same side during alliance >> tensions, before and after the watershed ANC conference in Polokwane, which >> propelled Zuma to the helm of the ruling party. >> >> The two have always projected a united front against the so-called >> nationalists in the ANC who are perceived to be anti-leftist. >> >> The Sunday Independent understands that the root-cause of Cosatu's >> disenchantment was triggered by their unhappiness about the SACP's positions >> on policy issues in the alliance. >> >> These include the contentious issue of the centre of power in the >> alliance. >> >> Cosatu wants to push the ANC to accept that the alliance - and not the >> ruling party - is the centre of influence on policy and on decisions about >> key government appointments, while the SACP is luke warm about this. >> >> >> *From: >> http://www.iol.co.za/?art_id=vn20100822110039967C434448&singlepage=1* >> * * >> >> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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