Comrade Firstly I would agree with comrade Jeje that it is important to investigate any situation before coming to a conclusion, with out insulting anyone of not taking such a very revolutionary deed put forth by comrade Chair Mao.
It is also important that we take realities into cognisence, unlike comrade Sphiwe Mathula he, in his statement(post) that "* t* teachers because the are the ones who are who contribute a lot in this country because before you can become a lawyer or a nurse you must be taught so teachers are always the to do that. But I think they choose a wrong time to ask for an increase while we still recovering from a recession and we coming form a world cup I think government don’t have enough money* But I think they choose a wrong time to ask for an increase while we still recovering from a recession and we coming form a world cup I think government don’t have enough money*..." It would as comrade Jeje state it would be un-communist for anyone to believe that because there was a world cup few months ago the struggle for the working class should be abounded comrade Commandant Che would be be turning in his grave. As for comrade Thabo the current debate is nothing but the enter revolution of the working class and the fight against capital domination, if you have failed to know that its bad that you still find yourself amongst us. But however it is very important to distinguish between a reactionary position and a progressive position. beside what comrade Jeje term as a "democratic right" for workers to engage on, but it is also very much important that we understand the material conditions facing our society. For instance comrade Siphiwe believe or understand that teacher are preffarably the most important factor as he say that " *teachers because the are the ones who are who contribute a lot in this country because before you can become a lawyer or a nurse you must be taught so teachers are always the to do that. But I think they choose a wrong time to ask for an increase while we still recovering from a recession and we coming form a world cup I think government don’t have enough money*.."according to Simhiwe's analysis if I may call them that, he believe that the most fundamental and important career is teachers who are in his in his understanding the soul of the nation, of which I differ boldly, many would argue that Nurses are the most fundamental pillar of the nation as they are the one who ensure that life is preserved and kept alive from the first day to the last day, but as for me as a revolutionary I believe and convinced that all workers are the most fundamental pillar of our society and one can never exist with out the other. It is very much important that we put proper and valuable analysis,dialectical materialism and investigations in our interpritation of situations and understanding of the world and any situation facing us as a people. It is true that comrade (if dearly he is) Siphiwe has not by any chance put forth any try of analysis nor did he put any inverstigation to his so called "*World Cup Fivah*" and the then "*Economic Crisis*" which in this case should have (by Siphiwe) been his inter-reacational to determine his contribution in his understanding of the current facing the workers both from NEHAWU and SADTU and other workers progressively taken part in the struggle for the egalitarian society, which I believe for Siphiwe is a mystery. Further in addition to what comrade Jeje has put forth, for I would prescribe that Siphiwe should be silent in matters of this importance, or rather I would plead that comrade V.C to take note of Chairman's Mao contribution of those who have and have not the right to speak. * investigate...investigate...investigate!!!* Ubuxhophu-xhophu abunakunceda nto....(*anarchy wont prevail)* Your for the Workers and the Poor!!! "*Politics are not like HIV or Flue...reading is more essential towards understanding*..." Komanisi On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jeje Yaqub <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's absolute hogwash, you pretend as if you support the teachers when in > reality you don't. If you were to support the strike given the important > role played by these workers, you would not imagine of a situation were you > prioritise grand standing events such as the world cup at the expense of the > workers' demands. As for your stated recession, it is not the teachers who > brought us the misery of economic crisis but the system which in the South > African context is capitalism. You stated categorically clear without any > gun pointed in your lousy head that teachers are indeed contributing > immensely towards the emancipation of society. So why keep on lamenting and > expect teachers to suspend their demands until the miseries of both the > world cup and the economic recession are finally resolved. > > Before you even attempt of thinking that government does not have money, > please revisit the statements made by government representatives that SA has > proved its capacity to the world by hosting a very successful world cup. Was > it not the same representatives that said SA has recovered from recession. > However, does it mean, in your analysis that workers should suspend their > hunger and at least be patient until SA finds an impossible way out from > this misery. Do you honestly think if teachers compromise their demands, > employment would be created? Do you think government can create job > opportunities if workers abandon their demands, if that's the case, where > will the money to pay these workers come from? Are you blaming the workers > for your unemployment status? Do you think our revolution is centered around > your selfish and unprincipled needs? > > For the records, workers are not greedy but just exercising their > democratic rights as enshrined in our revolutionary constitution. If there > is anyone to blame for this endless demands, it can't be workers but > capitalism. It is the ruling class that determines the standard of living > and workers are just trying to find a solution for their own miseries caused > by the usual suspect. > > Friendly advice, investigate the matter before you can comment on this > subject. Try to find out what are the past and present facts of this > protests before you earn a right to speak. Unless you will be told that you > are talking nonsense. Hoping you will understand. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sphiwe Mathula <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, September 4, 2010 10:56:01 AM > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] > > I do support a strike especially teachers because the are the ones who > are who contribute a lot in this country because before you can become > a lawyer or a nurse you must be taught so teachers are always the to > do that. But I think they choose a wrong time to ask for an increase > while we still recovering from a recession and we coming form a world > cup I think government don’t have enough money and if he does decide > to give them the increase that they ask for than what about use who > are unemployed who are still in the line of job opportunities? Are we > ever going to benefit in this so called `job opportunists? > While the are still people who are greedy > > -- > You are subscribed. 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