Cde Sandez read views of CdeFloyd in his blog on facebook. He then shared 
Floyd's views with us with advancing or telling us why he think we should 
engage the views of Floyd. 

It is then disturbing to learn that Floyd is attached left and right here in 
the forum which i believe is a forum of thinkers.

Of all those who atteched Floyd including Sandez, failed to verify what Floyd 
wrote in his blog. 

Even if i can be attecked and be labelled, but i think we haven't challenged 
Floyd intellectually so. 

I submarine for now.
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Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] Floyd Shivambu




As much as the NGP is similar to GEAR, even though it may not be 'perfect' I 
think we need to agree on its ,progresiveness in that it attempts to move away 
from the Neo-liberalistic approach of GEAR.  

Cde Jeremy Cronin puts it as: "f we hold on to this paradigm-shifting 
perspective, that lies at the heart 
of the NGP, we will lay the basis for a more intelligent and constructive 
South African-wide debate and consensus on the practical steps that we need 
to take collectively to address our social and economic crises". 

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:41:25 
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Subject: Re: [CU] Floyd Shivambu

But also remembers that Floyd was part and parcel of the YCL then,must as well 
request his view then,if he ask questions of this kind now.This gives one a 
sense of being opportunistic in his approach.Also he was in 
leadership.considering his suspension and all that.
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:01:15 
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Subject: Re: [CU] Floyd Shivambu

Argue your chief and stop running around? Can't you notice the similarities?
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:57:59 
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Subject: Re: [CU] Floyd Shivambu

Cde Matela

It was never my intention to get everyone to gang up on Floyd. 

I was simply projecting his sentiments RE: the stance of the SACP towards NGP 
and of cause comrades are welcome to made and make comparisons on the two 
policies to ascertain whether they are more of the same. 
Regards
Sande
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matela Mthwalo <[email protected]>
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:00:20 
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Subject: Re: [CU] Floyd Shivambu

Cde Sande,

What you actually doing is inviting people to attack Floyd. Why don't
you ask if SACP is neo-liberal in supporting two different policies
that contradict each other. We need to go through the policies and
check where they differ and see what is that SACP supported then and
what is supporting now. But I think Cde Floyd need to tone down his
statements. I also sense that his statement is not of a good taste.
But I know his relationship with YCL has somehow soured since his
suspension, Actually when is he attending hearing?

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://m.facebook.com/floydn?refid=46&ref=pymk
>
> "The SACP welcomed GEAR in 1996. So it should not be a shock it is welcoming 
> NGP. Neo-liberal tendencies should be exposed at all times" (Floyd Shivambu). 
> Comrades this is what Floyd wrote on his Facebook wall and the link gave.
>
> Regards
> Sande
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