Comrades we must remember that at one stage, the leader of the ANC Cde Jacob Zuma was unequivocal in saying we are not co-gorverning, is the ANC that is governing not the alliance. Cde Vavi he has not at one stage criticise the election manifesto of the ANC, but the manner by which government is conducting its processes & programmes in relation to the objectives of the NDR, Polokwane outcome & election manifesto. Corruption, tender state/outsourcing are the tendencies threatening our revolution & its intactness. The only way to defeat these new tendencies is to free ourselves from bondage of serving interests of individuals & elite groups in our organisations, but dedicate our loyality to the revolution & our beloved tripartite alliance. our revolutionary instincts should be deepened by intensified teaching of Maxism- lenenism. This can only be possible if we build strong SACP that will mobilise, educate & organise workers & the poor in to formidable force of revolution & transformation.
The character of the ANC today is digusting, to say the least. Therefore we are left with no option but to criticise it. We don't know how long we will criticise it without going against it, our patience is running dry the alliance has become marriage of conveniece. It has become a game of deployment of comrades & less about joint programme of liberation. Maybe we should learn from what Cde Patrice Lumumba said I quote ' No brutality, mistreatment, or torture has ever made me to ask for grace , for I prefer to die with my head high , my faith steadfast, & my confidence profound in the destiny of my country, rather the to live in submission & scorn of sacred principles' close quote. If he did against the brutality of Belgium, why can't we beat capitalism & its kinds ie corruption, tender state/outsourcing, sushi elitism. Cde VAVI is the only voice reason in the alliance & we will stand by him. We are resolute on that. Amandla! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Matela Mthwalo <[email protected]>wrote: > Cde Walter, > > People might say I am out of order, and I stand to be corrected. But you > see in Polokwane we set a wrong trend. "Winner Takes All". The slade voting. > This thing is killing our organisation. The reason why ANCYL conferrences > were so chaotic is because those lose know that they will never be > accomodated in processes of the ANCYL. The problems that we are seeing with > the lists are informed in most cases by the fact that we have reduced ANC to > "factions", and Vavi is right in raising this issue and other issues like > corruption which has become endemic. > > Matela > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Meloe Walter <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I said it before and I shall say it , comrades ANC is not immune from >> criticism and there are no time frames set as to when can someone level >> criticism against ANC. If ANC delivered on its election promises what is it >> that they are afraid of? It is good for democracy to have a person like >> Honourable Vavi who will not decide when to level criticism but say it at >> the go. >> >> Mr Mantashe wants to decide when can we say something about ANC. It is not >> for the first time ANC faces elections so what's a big deal about current >> coming elections. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of MOOBOYA SEKGOBELA >> Sent: 13 April 2011 08:31 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CU] Vavi 'no help to ANC' >> >> i dont like that the way vavi says about anc and elections thanx >> >> On 13/04/2011, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > [image: The Times] >> > >> > >> > Vavi 'no help to ANC' >> > >> > Cosatu 'too quick to accuse' >> > >> > >> > Sibusiso Ngalwa, The Times, Johannesburg, 12 April 2011 >> > >> > The ANC accused Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi yesterday of denting the >> party's >> > election chances with his public criticism of the ruling party >> > >> > ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe said Vavi's statements were not >> > "helpful" to the party. He was speaking at a press conference at which >> he >> > outlined the ANC's election campaign in Johannesburg. >> > >> > "The statements that are made by the general secretary of Cosatu are not >> > helpful to our campaign . at all - not because he is not telling the >> truth. >> > >> > "He is telling the truth in some instances. In some instances, he takes >> > premature decisions," said Mantashe. >> > >> > He was responding to comments by Vavi after a Sunday Times exposé of the >> > huge expenses racked up by Co-operative Governance Minister Sicelo >> Shiceka. >> > Vavi said Shiceka should be "fired" if he were found to have misused >> state >> > funds. >> > >> > Mantashe said Vavi was "pre-empting the verdict" before the allegations >> > against Shiceka had been tested. >> > >> > "If Cosatu stopped at saying 'investigate the case', that was good >> enough. >> > >> > "To say 'fire him' is actually saying it must be investigated and you >> know >> > the outcome. >> > >> > "It's actually terrible messaging in the middle of an election campaign. >> But >> > Cosatu is an independent organisation and has a right to make >> > pronouncements," said Mantashe. >> > >> > Shiceka reportedly flew first class at taxpayers' expense to visit his >> > girlfriend, held in a Swiss jail for drug trafficking. >> > >> > ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu voiced concern about state intelligence >> > agencies "overstepping" their mandate by investigating the internal >> > democratic activities of political parties. >> > >> > Mthembu was responding to reports of a "plot" by senior ANC leaders - >> > including Tokyo Sexwale, Mathews Phosa, Tony Yengeni, Jeff Radebe and >> Zweli >> > Mkhize - to oust Jacob Zuma as president of the ANC at the party's >> elective >> > conference next year. >> > >> > The named leaders have all denied the reports. >> > >> > Mthembu called on the government to investigate the report by the >> police's >> > crime intelligence division in which the allegations were made. >> > >> > "Crime intelligence is supposed to collect intelligence related to >> crime. >> > Did they not overstep their mandate in investigating political matters? >> > >> > "We hope that the government will make their own investigation," Mthembu >> > said. >> > >> > Mantashe said: "Ideally, state agencies should stay out of politics. >> That is >> > what we should be striving for." >> > >> > He said it was incorrect to characterise campaigning as a "plot" and >> that it >> > was a normal part of the democratic process. >> > >> > >> > From: >> > >> http://www.timeslive.co.za/specialreports/elections2011/article1016877.ece/Vavi-no-help-to-ANC >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> > The group site is at >> > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> > The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> > wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]; or e-mail >> > [email protected] >> > >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> The group site is at >> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]; or e-mail >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> The group site is at >> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]; or e-mail >> [email protected] >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Matela Mthwalo > > > -- > You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. > The group site is at > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University > The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our > wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]; or e-mail > [email protected] > -- You are subscribed. 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