------Original message------
From: Treasure Mathebula <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:26:59 PM GMT+0200
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] It is not Nzimande who is on fire 
,butill-disciplined elements

buti n blade must vacate our ycl n sacp to be mp's those are not
communist, they're sellouts, they're sellingout us as the poor n
working class, killed our party by using it for their own selfish
accumulation, come next yeat blade will run!!!!!!!! hands off juju
hands off

On 31 August 2011 00:19, sibusiso Mchunu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Michael Mzwanele Mdekazi i had wished to call you comrade but i
> think you dont expect such high accolade yourself.
>
> i am not a member of YCL, & i might never be one, but i am aware of the
> programms of YCL, maybe the reason you dont know them, it might be you are
> looking left but see right (have eyes but cant see)
>  the programmes of the YCL are NOT in opposition to SACP, although they are
> more youth,  based not isolation but concretely.
>
> you see, The ANC led alliance made a contract with the people, what is
> called Manifesto, and all programmes are derived there...so that we can
> check how the youth will be served, i am sure you are familier with part of
> Education, Employment, corruption, crime ect, therefore every component of
> the Allience need to do its share and advance this Manefesto.
>
> In your case its either you are not looking where you are going or you are
> going where you are not looking? Maybe you are going no where slowly.
>
> Education is a very important thing and listening to other views regardless
> whether you agree with them or not its paramount, win them over through
> debate not redicule or blackmailing.
>
> i will take it you might be a ANC YL, what is the programme of  YL? is what
> we see outside of Lithuli house part of practicals or implementation of a
> policy position of undermining the very principle that guide the
> organization that you might be a member off or just member of a member.
> where do you stand when ANC flag is on fire? t-shirts of senior leaders of
> ANC & SACP on fire? i am sre you clapping hands, saying this is what
> represent your organization.
>
> what does democratic centralism mean to you, i am sure it means economic
> freedom in you life time (just as we are talking about lifetime) do you know
> that YCL came up with a slogan in one thier conference, " socialism in our
> life time" of which ANC YL changed it to Economic freedom in our lifetime.
> there is more.
>
> there very Nationalization and Economic freedom you are now crazy about YCL
> has long advocated for such, and continues, its just that what you have not
> won in the street you will never win it in the boardroom.
>
> to be continued...for the record by the way i am not a member of YCL, and i
> might never be...
>
> Sibusiso
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Michael Mzwanele Mdekazi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The only time you hear from YCL is when Nzimande is under attack. The
>> YCL has long lost relevants in any public discourse, they are a
>> barking dog for Nzimande. Where are your programmes? YCL is just an
>> organisation to protect the interest of the selfishly accumulatin
>> elite within the SACP.
>>
>> On 8/30/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Shame on him!shower him with political lessons!
>> >
>> > Boingotlo!
>> > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > Sender: [email protected]
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:35:52
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] It is not Nzimande who is on fire ,
>> >  butill-disciplined        elements
>> >
>> > I wasn't surprise to see my so called Cde Mahlomola Yusuf Maloka and his
>> > a
>> > leader of YCL in my district
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Eddie
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "songezo madyibhi" <[email protected]>
>> > Sender: [email protected]
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:24:22
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] It is not Nzimande who is on fire , but
>> >  ill-disciplined        elements
>> >
>> > Cdes lets not worry much about people parading as communists in that
>> > barbaric
>> > sequence of events. They rented red t-shirts on oder to buy public
>> > attention
>> > that there are also members of the SACP and YCLSA. anyway Julius has his
>> > few
>> > lapdogs he got from YCLSA like the one we saw in TV last week defending
>> > Malema's tenderpreneurship. No leve of intimidation can stop the NDC of
>> > ANC
>> > from doing its job even those behind Malema.
>> >
>> >
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