Guess the President has a lot on his plate hence his not participating as much 
as you would expect Gugu,i hope its not because he feels the forum is for the 
YL to engage themselves on matters of mutual interest
I remain
Linda Schalk

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Sent:  27/09/2011 22:50:08
Subject:  Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA NATIONAL COMMITTEE STATEMENT

Greetings Cde President

Its good to see you still alive in the forum

Gugu 
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-----Original Message-----
From: sabelo gina <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:38:19 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA NATIONAL COMMITTEE STATEMENT

Cde Masilela!!!!!

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Cyril Masilela <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Cde Gina,
>
> We expect leadership to give us guidance and not throw us into confusion.
>
> If comrade Domza is close to the CPS, does that give a compromise to the
> communist revolution we are persuing as the SACP?
>
> Anyway i still find it unfair to be harsh on cde VC, whist cde Kenneth
> raised the issues and in no way are you contributing to the issues raised
> either in support or not.
>
> Lets engage.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]
> >
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:48 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA NATIONAL COMMITTEE STATEMENT
>
>
>
> Cde VC,
> You are obviously very close to CPS but I think you are unnecessarily harsh
> on YCL statement.
>
> Aluta
>
> Sent from my Nokia phone
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dominic Tweedie
> Sent:  25/09/2011 5:35:02 pm
> Subject:  Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA NATIONAL COMMITTEE STATEMENT
>
>
> Yes, that's right, Cde Kenneth.
>
> The formation of a Communist Party in any country is not something to
> ignore. The SACP has recognised the Communist Party of Swaziland (CPS). The
> YCLSA should not be speaking over the head of the CPS, as if it does not
> exist.
>
> Further, the YCLSA statement is incorrect in the way that it describes the
> so-called bailout. The South African Finance Minister's statement says as
> follows (I will re-post the entire statement shortly):
>     "The Government of South Africa has agreed to provide a conditional
> guarantee for a loan of R2.4 billion from the South African Reserve Bank
> (SARB) to the Central Bank of Swaziland (CBS). The repayment of the loan
> will take the form of a debit order against the SACU  [Southern African
> Customs Union] account that is held by SARB on behalf of the Government of
> the Kingdom of Swaziland. The repayment will coincide with the quarterly
> payment schedule of SACU transfer payments by South Africa in its capacity
> as the manager of the SACU Common Revenue Pool. The loan guarantee is
> premised on four pillars."
>
>
>   The CPS has called for all interested parties to pay close attention to
> the four pillars, and to make sure that what are laid down as terms for this
> loan, are  rigorously adhered to.
>
> Clearly is is not correct for the YCLSA to refer to this loan made against
> future Customs duties that will accrue to Swaziland as "money given to
> Swaziland which are taxes generated out of the sweat and blood of the
> workers.". The money is not a gift, and it does not come out of South
> African taxes. Interest will be paid on the loan.
>
> Finally, the YCLSA statement fails to call for a republic in Swaziland. The
> YCLSA statement could therefore be interpreted as a call for a bourgeois
> "constitutional monarchy", or even for a mere change of king. The YCLSA
> statement is made to sound strong but is in fact very weak, on Swaziland.
>
>
> VC
>
>
>
> On 2011/09/25 04:09 PM, kenneth lekhuleni wrote:  The YCL is not mentioning
> the communist party of Swaziland as an
> organisation they are going to work with, instead they prefer 'other
> progressive organisations' to mention the relationship. The CPS is
> running a programme 'breaking the chains' aimed at forcing the regime
> to release the political prisoners in Swaziland. It was worth
> mentioned in a media statement of YCL to support it.
>
> On 9/25/11, Mafika Damane Mndebele <[email protected]>
> (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:  *YCLSA NATIONAL COMMITTEE
> STATEMENT*
>
> 25 September 2011
>
> The Young Communist League of South Africa (YCLSA) held its 3rd Plenary
> Session of the 3rd National Congress Committee from the 23rd –
> 25thSeptember 2011, in Braamfontein. The purpose of the meeting was to
> look into
> the state of the organisation, receive reports from Provincial Structures
> and assess progress in terms of implementation of a quarterly Programme of
> Action as adopted by the 2nd Plenary Session of the National Committee.
>
> *A vibrant and campaigning organisation *
>
> The National Committee made an honest assessment of the state of the
> organisation and arrived at a conclusion that the YCLSA is an organisation
> existing in all corners of the country, vibrant and campaigning on most of
> the issues affecting young people. This was evidenced by a successful Ruth
> First Memorial Games which took place in Durban, in the Province of Kwazulu
> Natal. The event’s aim was at targeting communities affected by
> unemployment, poverty and substance abuse. The programme was aimed at
> ensuring that youth don’t wait for services, but instead become agents of
> progress within their respective communities by creating self-sustaining
> activities that will guarantee the well-being of society in general. The
> National Committee is satisfied that campaigns conceptualised by the YCL
> are
> getting an expression and implemented by other organisations and government
> departments and entities. Some of the campaigns that we are proud to have
> initiated include, Compulsory Circumcision of young boys, which the
> Department of Health is advocating, Free Sanitary Towels, and a campaign
> around Youth unemployment. We have further committed ourselves that by 2014
> we must have recruited 1% of the 19 million young people in South Africa as
> members of the YCL.
>
> *National University Based Branch Summit*
>
> The National Committee met immediately after its successful University
> Based
> Branch Summit which took place in Durban. The National Committee reaffirmed
> its position on taking forward the resolutions of the summit, but
> importantly to ensure that a radical programme ensue to make education
> fashionable for all young people. We will continue to engage the Department
> of Higher Education and Training to ensure a creation of an environment
> conducive, not only for learning, but for a better and more increased
> access
> to higher education and training.
>
> *SACP Red October campaign *
>
> The National Committee resolved that all structures of the YCLSA throughout
> the country will be participating radically on the Red October Programme of
> the SACP, with the theme centred around education. It is the view of the
> National Committee that the twin challenges bedevilling young people in
> this
> country is Unemployment and Lack of access to Education for skills
> development and capacity building. The YCL will be participating in the Red
> October programme of the SACP in order to rally young people, to recognise
> the importance of education and the impact that it can make in reducing
> unemployment and a general backlog of lack of skills.
>
> We will work and continue to engage government department like Public
> Enterprises together with its State Owned Companies to contribute, through
> their programmes like Artisan and apprenticeship development aimed at
> capacity building in order to engage more young people in this
> programmes.  However,
> the YCL is worried at the ratio between funds channelled towards
> infrastructural development in this department and the actual anticipated
> jobs. It is our view that more money is being used for huge projects with
> less impact and contribution towards job creation.
>
> *Judgment on the “Dubul ibhunu” song*
>
> The National Committee took issue around the judgment expressed by Judge
> Lamont on the “Dubul ibhunu” song. We welcome and support the decision by
> the ANC to challenge the court ruling. However, our view is that the
> movement in its entirety should not narrowly look at the judgement, but
> start a discussion on the role of the judiciary in society. It is our firm
> belief that the notion of an independent judiciary is false and a fallacy
> in
> the context of South Africa. We cannot have an independent judiciary in a
> class divided society, worse still, such purported and implied, independent
> judiciary expresses views on the discourse and political shape of the
> country. It is the view of the National Committee that the judiciary has
> positioned itself as a counter revolutionary wing of the state, hell bend
> at
> undermining the gains, the history and vision of developing a prosperous,
> non-racial society and ultimately weakening the capacity of the progressive
> forces to steer the country towards its developmental objectives.
>
> *YCLSA welcomes the decision of the President to act on the conduct of
> Sicelo Shiceka and Bheki Cele*
>
> The YCLSA welcome the decision of the President to act on the conduct of
> Sicelo Shiceka and Bheki Cele. This is a sign of commitment from the
> President and Cabinet to act on any matter, whether alleged or factual,
> around corruption. Corruption has been one of the most problematic elements
> of a capitalist society and continues to undermine development and
> prosperity in society. We think that this is a positive step in the right
> direction and will bring back public confidence on the state and its
> ability
> to confront and deal with corruption in its entirety, regardless of who is
> involved.
>
> *Swaziland bailout *
>
> The National Committee expressed shock and disappointment at the decision
> of
> South African Government to grant a bailout loan to Swaziland. It has
> alwaysbeen the view of the YCL that Swaziland monarchy and its
> administration is
> just an expression of apartheid and injustice meted to the majority of the
> working class and the poor in Swaziland. It is our view that the money
> given
> to Swaziland, which are taxes generated out of the sweat and blood of the
> workers, will be used to sustain a lavish lifestyle of King Mswati and the
> royal family, whilst majority of the people of Swaziland live in abject
> poverty. The YCL will continue to work with PUDEMO, Swaziland Solidarity
> Network (SSN) and other progressive organisations, to raise awareness, both
> in South Africa, Swaziland and the globe, on the injustices, undemocratic
> rule and state of misery and poverty inflicted to the people of Swaziland
> by
> King Mswati.
>
> *We support Palestinian Statehood *
>
> The National Committee welcomes with joy the position of South Africa to
> vote in favour of a Palestinian Statehood at the United Nations General
> Assembly in New York this week. As the Young Communist League we will
> continue to fight for the total independence of the Palestinian people
> against the aggressive and barbaric tendencies of Israel and United States
> of America. We will therefore continue to mobilise our people through the
> Palestinian Solidarity Forum which seeks to unite all the sects which are
> scattered all over the country under one banner, engage with various organs
> from civil society to government and political formations on the
> Palestinian
> question. The YCL recognises the Rights of all people of the world for
> independence and self-governance and we shall continue to strive for a just
> and peaceful world.
>
> *On COP 17*
>
> The National Committee noted the coming Conference of Parties (COP 17)
> which
> will be held in Durban later this year. It is the view of the National
> Committee that climate change is not only an environmental issue but a
> class
> and ideological warfare. It is our view that the class which is always on
> the receiving end of bad consequences of climate change is the working
> class
> and therefore resolved to fully participate in the coming conference in
> order to ensure that we not only build consciousness and awareness among
> the
> working class and poor youth around climate change and its consequences,
> but
> ensure that we influence decisions to be adopted by the conference in order
> to ensure that they are in favour of the working class and the poor. We
> pledge our support to the Department of Environmental Affairs to ensure
> that
> we marshall young people, we turn young reds into green brigades that will
> ensure that “Working together, we save tomorrow today”.  A detailed
> programme will be announced on how we will participate in this regard.
>
> Issued By YCLSA National Office
>
> For more information, please contact Mafika Mndebele (National
> Spokesperson)
>
> Landline: (011) 339 3621
> Cellphone: 073 574 5953
> Cellphone: 082 567 3557
> Email: [email protected] (mailto:
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