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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:47:58 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC YL PEC Will do so tomorrow!!! Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "jerrymokoena" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:43:04 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC YL PEC Can I be unsubscribed please! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tshegofatso Mogaladi Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:44 PM To: [email protected]; YCL SA Discussion Blog Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC YL PEC Cde Amie You are missing a point, you are telling us that ANCYL NEC must be commented (sic) for disbanding its KZN PEC;however the uncouth section of the ANCYL membership cried foul when the ANC through its NDC preferred charges against Julius on circumstances almost similar yet milder to how ANCYL dealt with the Lehlogonolo Masoga matter. It is now a trend on part of the ANCYL and its NEC to preach democracy, democratic centralism and consultation whilst they represent a most worst form backwardness , fascism and intransigence. ANCYL is possesses with the 'DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO' mantra. Cde George Pretoria On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM, mandlakhe radebe <[email protected]> wrote: > Exactly my point cde Kwena. Infact some of us, sadly, no longer take > anything said by the YL serious even though I concur with the YL in > putting critical issues such economic freedom and nationalisation on > the agenda, but it is now becoming apparent that these are raised for > opportunistic and factionalist benefits rather than to advance the > NDR. > > I also hope that those cdes who are welcoming the disbanding of the > KZN PEC will do likewise should the mother-body decide to disband the > YL for the reasons used to disband the PEC are almost carbon copy of > those brought against the YL president. > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Mathatho, Kwena (GPDID) > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Cde Amie, >> >> I am sure the same will apply to ANCYL to its mother body. There is >> autonomous Unitary relationship as opposed to a Federal behavior. You >> will agree with me that recently ANCYL national leadership displayed >> federal tendencies in its modus operandi and in this respect I have not >> heard you saying anything similar to what you are saying below. >> >> Consistency Cde Amie! >> >> Even more grave and extremely serious misbehavior of the ANCYL march to >> the Headquarters has not prompt or rather invoke a sense of disciplinary >> intervention to those transgressors and yet KZN PEC on exaggerated >> reasons is subjected to the most severest of measures. >> >> You and YL leadership are not consistent at all. >> >> Kwena >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amie A. S. >> Molelekwa >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:20 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC >> YL PEC >> >> Cde Mosa >> >> Unfortunately, there are comrades who reads other people's mind and >> decide to change the statement issued. Comrades, must understand that >> the ANCYL is unitary and not federal organization. You don't have ANCYL >> of KZN which pursue its programmes but ANCYL as a unitary organization >> pursue its overall programme including exercising discipline when >> necessary. >> >> We look for excuses whenever comrades are disciplined, even on this >> forum, when comrades raise their view points and some comrades when they >> don't accept, they are purged and we advance vague excuses. >> >> The ANCYL NEC should be commented for as much as the ANC NEC is been >> commented for stamping its authority. That is exactly the NEC of the >> ANCYL has done here. >> >> Regards, >> >> Amie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mosa >> Elephant >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC >> YL PEC >> >> Comrades who think this is a purge, must assist us by talking to the >> content of the statement. If the content is correct and true, I am >> convinced the move is appropriate. >> >> On 10/2/11, Mathatho, Kwena (GPDID) <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Cdes, >>> >>> >>> >>> Schizophrenic factionalists posing as astute tacticians-paralleling >>> current grounds for ANC Disciplinary Action to the ANCYL NEC'so called >>> basis to disband KZN ANC YL PEC, painting such a spurious impression >> in >>> order to pull the wool before the eyes of the masses of our people, >>> particularly the youth. >>> >>> >>> >>> We all know this is mere tactical fallacy-to create misleading reasons >>> for schizophrenic disbandment. >>> >>> >>> >>> Today, the politically malicious disbandment may relate to the PEC, >> and >>> possibly, tomorrow, the schizophrenia may extend to the Task >> Team(which >>> is said it will be there until the next Conference). >>> >>> >>> >>> Kwena >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dominic >>> Tweedie >>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:40 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [CU] ANC YL Special NEC Statement and Decision on KZN ANC YL >>> PEC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ANC Youth League Statement, 2 October 2011 >>> >>> >>> ANC Youth League Special National Executive Committee Statement and >>> Decision on Kwazulu Natal ANC YL PEC: >>> >>> >>> >>> The ANC Youth League held its Special National Executive Committee >>> meeting on the 1st of October 2011 in KwaZulu Natal. The NEC focused >>> specifically on the developments of the ANC YL KZN 7th Provincial >>> Congress Provincial Executive Committee. The NEC expressed displeasure >>> with the manner in which the ANC YL leadership has conducted itself >>> concerning internal organisational matters, particularly the >> Province's >>> public pronouncements that sought to undermine the integrity of the >> ANC >>> Youth League. >>> >>> Of great concern is the reality that throughout their disregard of >>> organisational process and due political conduct, the PEC did not >>> express any intention to receive political guidance from the National >>> Executive Committee, despite attempts of the NEC to meet with the >> PEC. >>> The PEC defined itself outside the resolutions and guidance of the ANC >>> YL 24th National Congress, and chose to publicly rebuke the National >>> Executive Committee, through making statements that it is a >> factionalist >>> formation. >>> >>> As the only remedy to this situation, the Special NEC resolved to >>> disband the Provincial Executive Committee of the ANC YL in KwaZulu >>> Natal with immediate effect. NEC members are in regions of the ANC YL >> in >>> KZN to announce this decision to members of the ANC YL. The NEC >> mandated >>> the National Working Committee to constitute a Provincial Task Team, >>> which will be the official and only legitimate voice of the ANC YL in >>> KwaZulu Natal until the Provincial Congress. Disbandment was the only >>> option the NEC had, because the PEC was not willing to politically >>> engage with the leadership of the ANC YL. >>> >>> The Special NEC resolved that the ANC YL National Disciplinary >> Committee >>> should prefer charges on Comrades Mthandeni Dlungwane who is former >>> Chairperson, Siboniso Duma, the former Deputy Secretary and Yolanda >>> Young, the former Provincial Treasurer. The charges will be based on >> the >>> public pronouncements made by these former leaders of the ANC YL and >>> their active involvement in mobilising members of the ANC YL to defy >> and >>> disregard the decisions of the National Executive Committee. >>> >>> The ANC YL will also write to the ANC pertaining [to] the conduct of >> the >>> aforementioned comrades to investigate possible violations of the ANC >>> Constitution. The ANC YL will also meet with relevant authorities of >> the >>> ANC to update them about the decisions of the Special National >> Executive >>> Committee meeting. >>> >>> The ANC YL's democratic and unitary character will never be undermined >>> and will forever be upheld to maintain discipline and consistency of >> the >>> organisation in fulfilling all its responsibilities. >>> >>> Issued by the ANC Youth League >>> >>> Contact: >>> Floyd Shivambu, ANC Youth League Spokesperson. >>> 0828199474 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >>> The group site is at >>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >>> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >>> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]; or e-mail >>> [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >>> The group site is at >>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >>> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >>> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]; or e-mail >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> The group site is at >> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]; or e-mail >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> The group site is at >> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]; or e-mail >> [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >> The group site is at http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]; or e-mail >> [email protected] >> > > -- > You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. > The group site is at http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University > The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our wikispace > web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]; or e-mail > [email protected] > -- You are subscribed. 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