climate change is a natural process, and what is a real problem is the 
capitalist induced climate chage that leads to release of carbon  to the 
atmosphere and other toxic gases. It is the system of capitalism that needs to 
be changed and replaced by a system based on the needs of the majority of the 
people and environment, nature will take care of itself and do recover over 
time. The rich regardless of where they come from have no interests in 
arresting runaway climate change. Their interests its profits and accumulation 
of these profits at the expense of everything and everyone no matter  what. The 
negotiations here in Durban will lead to nowhere as the nation states are 
inservice of capitalist class interests who are behind through their 
maximasation of profits, extract as much natural resources as possible and 
exploit workers to their best, ruaway climate change. SA is the most polluter 
in Africa and ranks 13 among the global polluters. SA produces electricity 
largely from coal, and sell this electricy very cheap to the smelters and 
mining industry, in the process cost are externilised to the environment and 
communities. One of the greatest problems faced by mining provinces is acid 
mine drinage, affecting water bodies. The western cape produces wine for 
europe, in that way they export water that we dont have in abudance. Green 
economy is no answer as long as the bottom line its profits, and living out 
issues such as worker control and ownership and other related social issues. In 
my view we are still colonised as long south african working class have no 
ownership and control of the means of production but the multinationals 
including chinesse, black fat cats and white south african capitalist own and 
control. Eskom and Sasol leads pollution and contributes largely to runaway 
climate change. Why can we not set up local solar and wind energy companies? 
Where does most of the loan from WB go? It goes to coal, nuclear etc and little 
of this loan goes to renewables. Whose interests are being served here? Is it 
those of the working class or capitalist and their sidekicks?

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:37:43 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] CLIMATE CHANGE,GLOBALISATION AND IMPERIALISM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
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CLIMATE CHANGE, GLOBALISATION AND IMPERIALISM
South Africa will be welcoming the world to the COP 17 in Durban, climate 
change is affecting the whole world with the poor at the receiving end. We 
believe in science which always tries to give solutions to global problems. 
>From the famous Kyoto protocol to the Cancun agreement the issue of the 
>mitigation, adaptation technology, financial and capacity- building; the 
>question of food security in the mist of the climate change and the 
>preservation of the forestry has been emphasised.
In South Africa the majority of the poor masses are residing in the rural areas 
that depend in tilling the land for their survival. The amount of the rain fall 
determines their yield, especially for the maize as an important diet for the 
South Africans. The change in the weather pattern has caused many people to 
abandoned their land due to poor yield or loses, rural people have been relying 
on the rainy season to prepare their soil as changes in the rainy season has 
been occurring slowly while people have continued to plough using their 
traditional knowledge of the weather pattern which was becoming outdated 
without anybody to advise them. As they were abandoning their agricultural land 
they were exposed to poverty and high food price. In mitigating climate change 
bio fuel has been identified as the future, many commercial farmers have 
switched to sunflower and other agricultural
 crops used in producing bio fuel. The new product has developed a new market 
at the expense of food security, which has lead to the increase in food prices. 
It reminds me of the booming days of tourism more commercial turned their farms 
to private game reserves in the expense of food security.
The South African government has secured funding from the IMF/ WORLD BANK 
through Eskom as a guarantor for its loan, the purpose is to invest into the 
green renewable energy, especially the wind and the solar system. South Africa 
has a competitive advantage in coal production and coal will remain the biggest 
source of energy in the next half century. The question is why South Africa 
does not invest more in technology which can reduce the CO2 produced by coal? 
The developing world has committed itself to reduce carbon emission more than 
the developed world. The new concept of green energy has brought new 
opportunities for a new business. It is said that the new green energy is more 
expensive compared to the traditional coal production of electricity.
WHAT  ARE THE CONTRADICTION?
We have witnessed the destruction of the Amazon forest in the quest to open 
agricultural land for bio fuel production in the Latin American countries 
especially in Brazil where by those who oppose the wealthy have been executed 
and nothing is being done to protect the indigenous people of the Amazon, which 
in turn it makes the green energy to be the enemy of the poor masses because 
will be associated with killings and poverty as its attractiveness in terms of 
profit making makes farmers to abandon their traditional crops for food 
production  which produces a high demand of food in the presence of low level 
of food production which lead to high food prices. High food prices will send 
the majority of the world population to severe poverty as it now the majority 
are living below the poverty line of a one dollar per day. It is alleged that
 the tests for wind electrical generation in South Africa were done in farms 
which were suppose to produce food, farmers were paid enough to cover their 
annual production by the investors. Why they did not open new areas in order to 
create new jobs and opportunities than to shrink the farming land and to add 
more farm workers to the unemployed list? In the business world especially 
under capitalism, every disaster is an opportunity to make more profit; the 
climate change is not an exception.
 
 
WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THE GREEN ENERGY?
The majority of the people will just have the social benefit of being in touch 
with their nature but they will be excluded for the next decade due to their 
position in society, the people who enjoy the green energy in our society are 
the rich. We have seen in the build up towards the COP17 in Durban we were 
shown houses of the multi millionaires with large solar systems for 
electricity; no squatter camp was shown or visited by the media. The countries 
with large economy will continue to benefit from this new market because they 
are the ones who own the technology and the patent/ licenses to produce the 
green energy. America has been dragging and looking for excuses not to commit 
to the Kyoto protocol, it was not for an accident but because America is not 
dominating in the field and the technology used in the green energy. We must 
remember when HIV/ AIDS was killing millions and
 millions of people around the world the rich countries through their 
pharmaceutics industries made a huge profit in the expense of the human lives 
and the poor, only the rich benefited from the ARV. Countries like Cuba and 
Brazil were under serious and constant threats from the multinational 
pharmaceutics for producing ARV for their people were said to be contravening 
international laws of trade by not respecting the so called patent mean while 
the prices for the ARVS were very high making impossible for the developing 
world to have access to treatment even if are the ones who are affected by the 
disease. The South African government was taken to task too, had to seek the 
intervention of the courts, in the case of Cuba the world health organisation 
had to intervene and Cuba can only produce ARVS for its people and not for 
commercial purposes or use or donate the drugs to a third party in simple 
language means they must not support Africa (Cuba must not
 produce ARVS and donate them to Africa.) If human lives were not important 
compared to profit therefore climate change and renewable energy is will be 
subjected to the forces of globalisation.Our own South African companies will 
not benefit the billion rands loan for the building of the renewable energy but 
we have to repay the loan or when we are in dept only South African especially 
the working class and the poor will pay the price from the IMF/ WORLD BANK.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE?
We must remember that after the world war every international convention or 
treaty is benefitting the big economies of the world including the United 
Nations therefore we must not relax and allow the big economies and our former 
colonisers to comeback and run our lives and our economies in the name of 
climate change and renewable energy. Let the treaty benefit everybody rich 
countries and poor countries, let this treaty not be used to punish third world 
countries or for regime change and to perpetuate under development and 
dependency especially in Africa. South Africa must invest more in research for 
new technologies to mitigate the carbon dioxide produced by coal; SA must lead 
and assist Africa in developing cheaper ways of developing renewable energy 
using our own available natural resources than importing the expensive 
equipment and this will keep our competitive advantage
 intact as leaders of coal producers and leaders in producing electricity from 
coal and including all coal products. We did it with SASOL, producing oil/ 
petrol from coal. We must not allow climate change to be used as the 
imperialist order of the day and dictate other countries through monopolise of 
knowledge and technology. 
Let us save our planet.
BY MAVIYO NDINISA
 




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