Who ever said we fear Julius? Your head is spinning neh...

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On 20 Dec 2011, at 4:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> It's what I'm doing now... Point out what is wrong no matter how I say it n 
> not be a coward n fear another man... 
> Many of you critique Julius in your corners alone but you fear to be known on 
> such... Umna ke I don't...
> 
> Tell him Madala said so...
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> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:07:33 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Lol woooooow! So low! And what's the role of the other youth leaders?
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> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:59:20 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> He contribute to them with Sushi King
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> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:04:51 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Apologies meant to say ANCYL but you can't attribute the youth social ills to 
> just one person?
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> From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:52:40 +0200
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> 
> Tuki-baby, comrade Malema is not the president of the country.
> 
> He just thinks he is.
> 
> 
> VC
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 December 2011 15:36, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is this what is called critical thinking and understanding, practically 
> attributing the ills of society to one person? By the way comrade Malema is 
> still the president of the country and do not get me started on chauvenists 
> in the party especially top office! Are the administrators of this group 
> encouraging this?
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> From: "Klaas Nono Mabunda" <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:18:28 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Ja noh, ga o sa loka mo
> "Eager for expropriation proves determination for rightful ownership, 
> especially where compensation is unlisted"
> From: sive gumenge <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:07:04 +0200
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just functional 
> mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just functional mechanisms of capitalism 
> seeking to weaken the ANC and the State. 
>  
> With the recent drug scandal news which have smack our country in the past 
> week, affecting young females of South Africa, I “had” expected the youth 
> (nationally) interested in the ANC Polokwane Conference to amongst other 
> things prioritize to anticipate resolutions on free education, youth 
> employment and protection of South Africa from the foreign capitalist order 
> that has invaded our country through drugs and parties. 
>  
> In my opinion, the acts of drug smuggling by young people should not be 
> divorced from the realities of poverty, youth unemployment and lack of 
> knowledge and skills in making a genuine living. I don’t however, distant it 
> as an act of crime.
>  
> I got so disgusted to observe amongst in the structures of Youth League, they 
> were referring to ANC Limpopo Conference as a “Night out with Castle Lager 
> and Soviet Jeans”, rather a pulpit of fundamental change in a province 
> dominated by extreme poverty.  However, I think I expected too much from 
> “friends” of Julius Malema and Cassel Mathale to be thinking what I was 
> thinking. They think similar to Malema, whose brain is only pre occupied by 
> liverish lifestyle which is sustained by state tenders in Limpopo and the 
> desire to turn the ANC into a “daily birthday party” than a liberation 
> movement of the people of South Africa.
>  
> The reemergence of African Chauvinists that colluded with Armchair Theorists 
> (whom for years exploited the Communist Party’s state influence and its trust 
> on them), has put further our country into threat of foreign invasion by 
> international drug lords, (whose colour doesn’t matter) that have identified 
> the youth majority of South Africa is unemployed, uneducated which makes them 
> unconscious of capitalist realities and are driven by materialistic things 
> such as clothes, alcohol and parties.  This grouping is clearly showing its 
> true colours that it engages in struggle for self-interest than to protect 
> South Africa from international capitalist forces that will do whatever it 
> takes to undermine our democracy and the history of the oldest liberation 
> movement in Africa even selling drugs to innocent kids.  
>  
> The African Chauvinists and the Armchair Theorists are nothing but just a 
> group of Angrists since and towards Polokwane Conference. The African 
> Chauvinists had felt sidelined under the Mbeki Regime of the 1996 Class 
> Project and they resolved in regime change with a “desperate” Jacob Zuma who 
> was under serious victimization by forces of the project, without knowledge 
> that this was in exchange for state tenders upon his arrival at Mahlabandlovu.
>  
> Similar, to the Armchair Theorists who felt sidelined in their attempt to 
> hijack the MTV (Medium Term Vision) of the South African Communist Party, 
> with their narrow in ability to contextualize Marxism-Leninism in relation to 
> state influence and state power. It clearly shows that they are so eager to 
> be in the state so that they can reveal who they really are.
>  
> If we don’t do thorough class analysis of our situations, we will miss the 
> opportunity of identifying these threats to the state, which amongst other 
> things capital is used to achieving that goal. While close to 660 South 
> Africans are trapped in foreign prisons, Malema and his group are busy 
> throwing free for all parties at Moses Mabida Stadium in celebration of what 
> they narrowly term “economic freedom in our lifetime victory”, which in its 
> true meaning is capital wastage. Yes we do want economic freedom in our life 
> time but for the majority not minority representatives of poor people.
>  
> Of course South Africa will never be the same as it was previously and the 
> people of South Africa must be economically emancipated in totality but they 
> must be careful of being made “one night stands prostitutes” by those who 
> live double lives. I agree that Karl Marx says, “Everything which exist, 
> exist of necessity. But equally everything which exists is doomed to perish, 
> or to be transformed into something else. Thus what is “necessary” in one 
> time or place becomes “unnecessary” in another”, however, we cannot therefore 
> turn South Africa into a Sheeben State of Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans, but 
> we strive harder to turn South Africa into a productive country that is 
> driven by morality and communal living.
>  
> We must protect South Africa into turning to a “black-man you are your own” 
> kind of a situation. Individualism is capitalism and it promotes selfishness. 
> Certain foreigners enter our country not for better living but to make money 
> and they promise young South Africans who are unemployed and uneducated all 
> sorts of lies to a better a life. This individualism is lived by Malema 
> through his liverish glorious lifestyle of wasting money in parties and 
> overseas trips while he advocates that he is poor.
>  
> I think it is time we use the recent mistakes of the young female South 
> Africans as experiences that will be utilized to defend our country from all 
> forces of capital invasions. We must all ways remember that capitalism uses 
> all forms life and things to survive and now it has used innocent women to 
> smuggle drugs in foreign countries for its survival.  It is unfortunate to 
> note that, capitalism knows no colour but knows useful idiots for its 
> survival.
>  
> Cde Sive Gumenge
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