Derick,
Thanks for your answer; I can only agree on your view on this topic. My email was in a reaction to several unsuccessful attempts to contact the board admin and in depth FAQ / admin posts reading. To build up a community requires a bit of support at the beginning of the process. Even if YDL is an established distribution, the PS3 version is attracting a whole new set of people. My feeling is that a renewed bootstrap process could be beneficial, at least to ensure that people willing to join / contribute to the community are able to do so. A few posts from Terra Soft people, just to say hi (and answer to key questions) and show that there are people working on the product would be also great. As far as Im concerned the poor level of Terra Soft presence in the PS3/general sections of the ML or board decided me not to subscribe to YDL.net just because I feared that even the paying subscription was not associated with the appropriate level of resources. Anyway, Im now a happy registered user of the forum and I was finally able to contribute the result of my experience with PS3 kernel compilation. Frank _____ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Derick Centeno Envoyé : dimanche 8 avril 2007 20:55 À : Discussion List for General Yellow Dog Linux User Topics Objet : Re: [ydl-gen] yellowdog-board.com is not functioning - Off topic discussion Hi Frank: Regarding the Board, I'm sure that you noticed this link: http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=9 perhaps this also: http://www.yellowdog-board.com/faq.php If you did, it is possible that you missed the hint that the Site Admin and the System running the Board are in Germany! While your sentiment is very well understood, at least by me, the community of relationships which exists is just that -- a community. The community, as a concept where shared interests exist, ends where legalities, ownership and related issues begin to intercede. One of the regions where distinctions occur is in the area of ownership and who is responsible for what, and for how long. It is not practical, or even good, for any business to buy or influence everything for the sake of convenience. The system in effect, although rather messy, disruptive and chaotic does guarantee a degree of independence throughout each relationship. And individuals will comply accordingly with their unique understanding and views regarding the kind of relationships they believe themselves to be associated with. If the Board in Germany is not functioning properly the rest of us may feel concerned but all that can practically be done is write to the same persons -- the System Administrators -- that everyone else would write to. There might be a phone contact somewhere who knows someone to make things happen a bit faster, but that is assuming quite a lot for two sites spread across the planet run by completely different organizations. One commercial and the other I imagine a non-profit entity or community. I have my own questions. How is it that no confusion exists between say Hell's Angel's bikers and Harley Davidson bikes? Really, if you think about it I've never heard of anyone writing to the Harley Davidson company complaining the a local chapter of the Hell's Angels has a peculiar difficulty. Let me put the question differently. Is Sony or Nintendo supposed to get involved because a community of gamers somewhere couldn't access the server run by a local club? Being truly "helpful" changes as influence increases; usually resulting in "help" transitioning to control. This conundrum is exactly where Microsoft has found itself; it is not an easy issue for commercial entities to avoid. That kind of close association can become a bit too close, to my thinking. Better that distinctions remain and diverse responsibilities remain what they are. The "open source" community concept is morphing in many directions and services simultaneously; however every commercial and non-profit entity in it's various forms should attend to how their unique participation contributes to the "community". This is not as simple as it appears. It's perhaps like different partners of different dance styles being invited to a party; how is it going to be all done such that no one gets hurt and everyone enjoys the opportunity resulting of coming together in this unique manner. It's a work, or effort, in process or continuing evolvement. Each is free to refuse to participate; respecting this choice for whatever reason is imperative. Best wishes... On Apr 6, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Frank Lyonnet wrote: Hello, I just wanted to inform you that it seems that the registration process at the Community Forum http://www.yellowdog-board.com <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/> is not functioning properly (the problem has already been reported on this ML). Any message to the admin for manual account activation is returned as non delivered: [EMAIL PROTECTED] le 06/04/2007 14:13 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified. Please retry or contact your administrator. <exch-ipanema.ipanema.local #4.4.7> Not to mention that a couple of weeks ago the forum site was completely down. Even though I understand this site is operated by a volunteer. I dont believe this is a good practice to leave it in that state as Yellow Dog is currently attracting a bunch of new users through the PS3 release. A lot are directed to http://www.yellowdog-board.com <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/> quite easily through Google and through Terra Soft site. I guess more support from Terra Soft for this board could be highly beneficial for the image of YDL. This probably applies to this mailing list as well. I understand that a paying community/support exists: YDL.net, but I believe a Linux distribution cannot only be based on paying support Frank _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' ========================== "Intellectual freedom cannot exist without political freedom; political freedom cannot exist without economic freedom; a free mind and a free market are corollaries." -- Ayn Rand, "For The New Intellectual."
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