On Apr 13, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Remember that what Apple has done with open source is modify nearly
> everything to it's taste.  Apple's pdisk for example is probably not
> able to see or read ext3 format which is the format used by YDL.   
> So the
> above doesn't mean anything.  Apple even entirely removed md5sum from
> Darwin, the open source or BSD component of OS X which is standard
> everywhere else (in every other Unix).

I am well aware that Apple mooches the best bits of BSD as they see  
fit for Darwin, much as they reworked System V to dovetail with  
System 7.0.1 in A/UX 3.x (still my favorite UNIX-variant).

With regards to `pdisk`, I was relying on Mac OS X's inability to  
recognize the partition's format.  That would have indicated the  
possibility of the DVD being FAT-32, ext2/3, ISO-9660, et al.  Since  
`pdisk` did not return the expected `No valid block 1 on '/dev/ 
rdisk2'` error, but rather showed the disc to have an Apple partition  
map, my interests were piqued.  As it turns out, YDL 4.1's Disc 1 has  
a similar partition map and uses HFS (standard).

I am no expert in Open Firmware or bootloaders (no matter how hard I  
try to be), but this makes sense: the first disc has(had?) to be  
bootable on Old World Macs, but discs 2-4 are needed only when a  
rudimentary Linux is already running.  As a result they are in  
ISO-9660 and thus lack an Apple partition map.  Indeed, they could  
have been ext2/ext3.  Had that been the case, I would have installed  
ext2fsx on Mac OS X and rummaged around the disc for clues.

With regards to MD5, I disagree fully.  I checked my stash of YDL 4.1  
ISOs against Argonne's and the MD5s match.  Perhaps Apple's `md5`  
utility has changed somewhere in the past, but I can say with  
certainty that since 10.2.8 on forward `md5` works "as expected".   
Please `man md5`.

>> (3) Are the YDL 5 prints' undersides supposed to be blue?
> Different persons will see different colors or none, depending on  
> their
> eyesight and perhaps even their location.  Although I referred to the
> possibility of the DVDs being Blu-ray, I was really indicating that  
> this
> particular observation is not a useful guide in determining anything.

It "determines" the process by which the disc is printed.  It was  
possible that I ordered too hastily and someone at TSS made a quick  
burn-n-ship instead of shipping a print - you never know.

> Consider this, most persons can see upon reflecting the underside  
> of any
> DVD or CD to light for a short period a range of brightly varying
> colored light similar to a rainbow; people will obviously observe
> different hues and describe them quite differently.

Yes, and I abuse that "rainbow effect" to "see" the data on disc.  I  
can't read it with my eyes, obviously, but at least I can detect the  
physical presence of the data.  If no data were on disc, the light  
streaks would have been continuous and unbroken.

  - NeoAmsterdam


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