Re: [ydl-gen] VMware or Virtual box

Fri, 02 May 2008 04:21:44 -0700

Andres has correctly detailed for you what I intentionally omitted. There is no lack of interest in such products but the ones which can be tested and perhaps utilized are those which abide by the General Public License and are open source. Even if a GPL project was initially designed for Intel -- if the project has designed their effort so that it can be recompiled and run on the PowerPC family of CPUs (which include the Cell) there is no reason why you or anyone else cannot discover whether it will run on a PS3 within YDL.
I expect that those who are interested in such an effort will actually pursue it. Some years ago a similar discussion did arise within these lists; I don't recall which GPL projects pursued virtualization besides Bochs, but there were 5 or 6 projects at the time and the only problem back then was the processors. There should technically be no problem in implementing this on the PS3, but I can't discuss the point beyond theory as I neither have a PS3 nor am I interested in running or emulating anything on Intel or that family of processors. 


On May 2, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Andres Tello Abrego wrote:


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I belive, VMware will not ever be supported on PS3, mainly, because
VMware is a full virtualization plataform, and needs that the
virtualized achitecture must be a set or subset of the host
architecture. So, that way you can be able to "simulate" a 486 over a
DualCore because each instruction can be maped to a new instruction.

SO, if you think, like an a translation layer, you would need a very

fast and smart VM to, not even map an instruction, but translate it  
and

interpret it, very fast.


To achieve this, you need a full software virtualization solution  
likes

Bochs, but it is slow as hell...


PS3 uses an Cell architecture, which is equal to none other  
architecture
of hardware... totally different from the x86 architecture you can  
find

at the consumer pc (including new macs)...




Derick Centeno wrote:

Vmware is a proprietary product; you'll have to contact them as to  
how
close they abide with or cooperate with GPL based systems such as  
YDL,

or even if they are aware if their product will run within YDL.


As regards a Flash work alike, there is Gnash, which you can  
install via

yum.  However I cannot address how Gnash works with Youtube.


On 5/1/08, *Phillip Doheny* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


    Hi there.  Just did the install of Yellow Dog on PS3.  Easiest  
Linux
    install ever.   One of the first things I tried to do was  
install VMWARE
    (don't ask why), but I got a message saying that VMWare won't  
run on
    power processor.  Does anyone have any successful experience  
getting

    VMWare, VirtualBox or even NXClient running on the PS3?


    One final issue - Youtube.  Flash won't work.....is there a  
workaround?

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