On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:46:25 +0000, Andrew Mason wrote: > Aqua is simply a toolkit (?theme applied to a tool kit even?) which is what > OSX uses. > > GTK is the toolkit that Gnome and XFCE4 use and QT(from trolltech) is the > Toolkit that KDE uses. You can pretty much make either of these toolkits look > like Aqua and. The difference is the amount of control and the options that > are built into your DE that make the difference. For example in KDE i can > make it LOOK like and behave exactly the same as a windows system, or an OSX > system (not that I would do this though =) ) but the control i have over the > window system is still the same. i.e I can have a windows selected and raised > as soon as I put the mouse over it, or I can position the location of the > close buttons, I can turn off all animations or turn on only selected > animations and options etc...
I'm only really interested in being able to set *one* setting (the rest is sugar coating since it doesn't really make a huge difference in productivity/usability): I'd like to force the menu bar to always appear at the top of screen, take it COMPLETELY out of the application windows and have a minimum of wasted screen space. Obviously, in this scenario I'd completely dump the "dock" (or whatever you call it in GNOME/KDE). Ideally I'd do this in GNOME since it's the desktop environment I like the most, but, I'm willing to switch to KDE (or another) if that'll give me pinned menu-bars and no more menubar-in-window nonsense. PS Would fluxbox allow me to do this? I'm going to experiment with the window managers (or whatever they are) installed with YDL 3.0.1 and see if I see any hints of improved usability. PSS Clint -- I agree with you on the dearth of novel GUI ideas. So far I've seen little evidence of out of the box thinking in the GUIs: they're all more-or-less Windows clones with a few snazzy add-ons. In the early 90s I remember my first encounters with X (probably 6 or 7 ;) and seeing some pretty impressive GUIs -- now why couldn't they have had a stronger influence on GNOME or KDE :( :( :(. I see so much potential in GNOME/KDE but, alas, it's unrealised. Eric. _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie
