Dear Derick,

    I apologize for not being clearer.

I originally meant to install 4.0.1 on my 3400c but thanks to you I realized this was not possible. After finally burning the CDs correctly, I installed 4.0.1 on my iBook running Mac OSX 10.4.2. This was very simple for me and has been running like a dream.

Daily I seem to keep learning more from both trial and error and your emails. What I am having trouble with now is my 3400c. I have a minimal install of Mac OS 8.5 on it. I got BootX working finally and am able to get it to start booting from the 3.0.1 CD to install. However I am getting errors when trying this. It does not always stop at the same point, but I have gotten various messages before it stopped including most often "I can't recover from this" and "Warning unable to open an initial console" and "Will reboot in 180 seconds".

I have been trying to access the site you mention on my iBook, but keep getting this error when trying: Safari can’t open the page http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start” because it could not connect to the server “www.sharplabs.com”. yet I can got to www.sharplabs.com just fine!

I will try going to in in Firefox after I get it from Yum thanks to your help! Thank you again Derick!

In Christ,
Deacon Nikolai
http://www.Stanosheck.com

On Aug 8, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

Dear Deacon:
As usual the dance of complexity is already developing and soon you will have your own little private twister (or tornado)! Judging from the nature of the questions, perhaps this is happening already.

If you read carefully what I wrote previously I was very specific with what OS, BootX was associated with. BootX was designed to be used as a Control Panel application and therefore can only work with Classic OS, which means Mac OS 9 & LOWER.

MacOS X doesn't need BootX at all. Also I believe I stated that YDL 4 and higher was designed for Mac OS X only. I also stated that the earlier versions of YDL are optimized for Macs using the Classic OS.

The PB 3400 may have originally come with MacOS 8 or 8.5. In any case, it is considered a Classic OS and will need BootX installed as a Control Panel. All you need to do is find BootX on the first CD of YDL 3.0 and while within the MacOS copy BootX from YDL Install Disk 1 and drop BootX onto the System Folder of the Classic Mac OS. Only after BootX is properly installed in the System Folder then you must follow the other directions provided regarding setting up BootX, such as copying the Linux kernel into a Folder where BootX can see it, set up your video, set up the RAM disk for Linux to use and bootup from, and not much more than that. These are just some of the preparations necessary to be done within the Classic OS BEFORE you attempt running YDL. Installing YDL ALSO requires the use of BootX, but this time for this situation, BootX has different settings. What settings are necessary for which task and at what point are included (review the READ ME file carefully) on the first YDL installation disk of YDL 2.0 and YDL 3.0; if you can't find it (the READ ME), then do a search on Google for more information on BootX.

Believe me Deacon, there are other ways of doing Linux, I'm merely narrowing the possibilities of discussion so I don't rewrite Wikipedia!

After implementing these preliminary procedures with BootX, then you will then find booting into Linux through BootX to be something you get used to.

Let's imagine (I hope sincerely this can eventually happen for you, but right now let's use imagination) you are in Linux and finally can see the Linux Desktop. You will find the Kicker (not quite the same as the Windows taskbar, experience will show you why) and all other applications of your interest or that you could be interested in. If Firefox is not installed you can install it using yum. The command sequence is:

yum install firefox

This applies to any application you may wish to install.
You can also check using yum to see if there is a ppc version of the application of your interest. You want to check flash, then do:

yum search flash

then yum will list what it finds. IF it finds flash then it can also install it for you

yum install flash

Of course, that's the easy part.
There is a file (yum.conf) which yum refers to which needs to be updated so that it references and searches the most useful, current and useable libraries (called repositories). It is up to you to do that. Although others have done this before and put together there experiences and knowledge onto the YDL FAQ pages. I don't know if you can access this information resource, the Yellow Dog Linux Frequently Asked Questions (YDL FAQ) pages but if you can, study it. Many of your questions which I merely skimmed over here, are addressed there in more detail:

http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start

Although Thunderbird is ok. I found the application called Evolution far more flexible and useful. It functions more like Now Contact and Now Up to Date as well as an email program with encryption/decryption capability, and very many other things. As much as I like how OS X does things, I do miss Evolution. I know some people enjoy xmms, but you really out to try xine and implement the GOOM application within it.

Best wishes...

On Aug 7, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Deacon Nikolai wrote:


Dear Derick,

Thank you again. Both for your help and honesty of the situation. I finally figured out how to burn the ISOs correctly on my other Mac, an iBook that is running Mac OS X 10.4. I am actually using that iBook with YDL 4.0.1 installed on a small partition. I also found some 3.0.l ISOs
and burned them to CDs.

    In the past I actually had this 3400c (by using some major hacks)
running 9.2.2! It really slowed things down though. I think I was as
happiest with 9.2.1.

Anyway, where is the best place to put BootX in the Mac OS X folder hierarchy when I add it to my 3400c? Without it, my 3400c does not seem to recognize the 3.0.1 CDs as a start up disk. Should this be expected?

    One more total newbie question. How do I install Firefox and
Thunderbird? I am not sure how to use YUM or get updated or new
software. Also is is possible to install Flash?

    Thanks again for all the help!

In Christ,
Deacon Nikolai
http://www.Stanosheck.com


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