Derick, On Aug 20, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
> Hi Jeffrey! > > I noted your earlier posting and thought the following link might > interest you: > > http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=381 > > It provides instructions on how to prepare BootX settings (and other > details) so that you will be able to use YDL 4.x as long as you > need to > use that Old World Mac. This is essentially the same information as http://www.yellowdog- board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249> ("how to install YDL 4.0 on old world mac?"), but thanks for the pointer anyway. > Regarding using earlier versions of YDL or any other Linux the > important > thing to consider is not so much the software as it is the reason why > such a thing is necessary for you. As you are probably aware, each > increasing version number usually addresses flaws, errors and other > problems not initially addressed in a prior version. I tried to > consider the possibility of some Linux software which did not rely or > interact with or need support from the Linux kernel at some level (for > processing, recompilation or something else) and frankly I found > myself > stuck. > > I'm not an engineer, nor does my knowledge base apply to the whole > world > of Linux -- and so I can only state that my own opinion is that it is > best to move forward or in this case utilize YDL 4.0 at least. > When you > become more familiar with these instructions then perhaps you could > attempt to develop a similar strategy presented in those instructions > and adapt them yourself to fit YDL 4.1. I agree; I will try to use 4.x if I can. <snip discussion of dial-up vs. DSL/cable> > There is one good thing behind all this though, according to this > webpage: > > http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/hardware/others.shtml > > Your Mac should be able to run the current version of YDL as long > as you > use BootX. Keep in mind that BootX is not provided with any > version of > YDL beyond YDL 3.0. This means that the only guide to use the modern > version of YDL (while using BootX) is to use that above link. Yes, thanks for the heads up. Now we know that it *should* work; I just haven't been able to get it to work yet. > Just a different view, but did you bother to test the CD drive itself? > > You could use the hardware diagnostic test which is on the original > Apple OS Install CD which came with that machine. If you need to > replace the drive make sure to have that replaced drive be as close to > original Apple standard for that computer as possible. I believe the drive is fine; it works for everything else with no problems. Of course, since I'm not getting YDL to install, everything is theoretically suspect; having said that, I *really* don't believe the problem is the drive. On the other hand, I haven't tested the CDs themselves, although I will eventually get around to that part of the debugging process. One way to do that is to test them on, say, a New World Mac (where we can avoid all the BootX nonsense). > Good Luck.... Thanks, I'll need it! :) Sincerely, -- Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Jeffrey Rolland wrote: >> Ken, >> >> Thanks for the links. I already had both printed out, along with >> <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249> ("how to install >> YDL 4.0 on old world mac?"). >> >> I was hoping someone would have some more specific support, like what >> the correct kernels to use with each of 3.0.1 and 4.0.1's Anaconda >> engine is. (I have a suspicion that the kernel is part of the >> problem.) >> >> Another thing I'd like to know is if I do manage to install 3.0.1 or >> (heaven forbid) 2.3, is it possible to use the .iso's for 4.0 and 4.1 >> to update via yum or if I have to use a direct internet connection? I >> have only dial-up access for the Power Mac, so updating over an >> internet connection instead of CDs would be almost impossible. >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> >> Sincerely, >> -- >> Jeffrey Rolland >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> On Aug 20, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Kenneth Browne wrote: >> >> >>> Jeffrey Rolland wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, all! >>>> >>>> I am attempting to install Yellow Dog Linux >>>> >>> First off! Don't give up. It isn't all that hard. >>> >>>> (versions 3.0.1 and 4.0.1 >>>> burned and tried, 2.3 burned but not yet tried, waiting for CDs >>>> onto >>>> which to burn 4.1) onto an Old World Mac (Power Macintosh 7500 >>>> with 1 >>>> GB RAM and a 50 GB HD (10 GB Mac OS 8.6 and 40 GB unformatted)) >>>> and I >>>> am having trouble. >>>> >>>> The 4.0.1 disk won't load Anaconda (the YDL installer engine) and >>>> crashes. >>>> >>>> The 3.0.1 disk will load Anaconda, but won't read the 3.0.1 disk >>>> for >>>> data and keeps waiting for readable CD; the 3.0.1-loaded Anaconda >>>> will read the 4.0.1 disk a little bit, but then crashes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> On Old World Macs you cannot use a bootable CD without installing >>> Boot-X >>> first on the Mac Side as an control panel. >>> I've done it on a PPC 5500 (motherboard as the 6500 but in an all >>> in one >>> form factor that was sold to educational institutions.) >>> >>>> Is there anybody on the list who has experience using BootX and >>>> >>>> >>> I'm currently running v. 4 alongside OSX on a G4 and it's been a >>> while >>> since I toyed with Boot-X but to quote the printed copy of the v. 4 >>> "Companion to Installing Yellow Dog Linux 4.0" under the heading >>> NewWorldROM Computers..."Yellow Dog Linux no longer officially >>> supports >>> OldWorld ROM computers....While this does not mean this version of >>> Yellow Dog Linux does not function with these systems, the required >>> BootX bootloader ( http://www.penguinppc.org/bootloaders/bootx ) >>> must be >>> installed." >>> >>> Here's the URL to the aforementioned installation guide. >>> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/ydl4.0_guide- >>> double.pdf >>> >>> as well as the URL to the v.3 guide with more details about >>> installing BootX >>> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/ydl3.0_guide- >>> single.pdf >>> >>> Hope this helps. I still have one of those old PPC5500's in my >>> garage >>> awaiting a hard drive and a home :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: >>> 8/18/2006 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog- >>> newbie >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie
