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Jeffrey allow me to express admiration for your persistence;
congratulations are definitely in order. As you work in YDL 3, keep in mind a few things: 1. yum updates within a version family, not across them. In other words, yum is designed such that you can update with say YDL 3.0 to YDL 3.0.1. I have not seen or heard of anyone using yum to update between YDL 3.0 to YDL 4.0, etc. If you take a look at the coding of yum.conf, you would notice that the mirrors yum.conf points to are specifically related to that version of YDL you are using. Also even if you chose to rewrite yum.conf to point to other mirrors and versions of YDL, that is only part of the problem. The components instructing yum how to behave (what to access, and install, etc.) reside on the mirrors and if you attempt to access them using your current plan you could create a problem for yourself which will make your current efforts look rather simple. 2. Consider that the installation manual provided by TSS recommends the use of Apple's formating utility first, to prepare the hard drive (HD). Let me be as clear as possible regarding this point. The recommendation from TSS to use Apple's Utility first to prepare the HD so that the partitions to be used by YDL are formatted as Free Space would not exist, if TSS engineers believed that Apple's Utility could not do the job. The instructions of TSS explain that after the HD has been formatted as recommended then one proceeds to follow the rest of the installation procedure. 3. The installation instructions provided by TSS use a different utility from within Anaconda called Disk Druid; not fdisc. 4. Following the installation manual for YDL 3 would be a good idea, if you choose to use YDL 3. Good Luck.... ======= Jeffrey Rolland wrote: Success! (Well, sorta ...) After screwing around a bit with kernels, ramdisks, and CDs, I arrived at a winning combo (I *knew* it was the kernel/ramdisk ...)Trial n: For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.4.22-2fBOOT. I was using ramdisk size 8192. I was using the "More Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using the ramdisk supplied on the 3.0.1 CD. For the CD, I was using the 3.0.1 CD. Of course, this is an install of YDL 3.0.1, but, hey, it's an install! I have to agree with Eric that "YDL 4.[x] and the OldWorld Macs are simply not meant to be", although I will try using yum to update to 4.x after I have the 3.0.1 install completed. (Could someone give me a pointer to the info on how to update via CDs? I used to hace the link, but now I can't find it.) Anaconda started (in GUI mode!). I had to use fdisk to delete a Mac OS partition on the partition of the hard drive onto which I wanted to install YDL (Apple's Drive Partition utility only makes Mac OS partitions, so I just needed to delete this and turn the partition into free space), which was a bit scary, but I did it. Automatic Partition on Anaconda took it from there. Unfortunately, after selecting an "Everything" install for the "Desktop" configuration, the installer hung on installing xemacs-21.4.12-6, a 79,636 KB install (is that large?). There were 35 packages remaining out of 1380 total (1,345 completed) and 12 minutes 50 seconds remaining out of 4 hours 3 min 51 seconds total - VERY FRUSTRATING! (%$^#*^%$*! ^%(%(*&$%#%! %^#^%##%^#^!) (Pardon my French - I'm still learning.) So, I'll try again with a smaller group of packages and excluding xemacs (which I'll never use). But at least Anaconda ran! Hope this is of use to someone. Sincerely, -- Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Begin forwarded message:From: Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: August 21, 2006 12:18:19 AM CDT To: Discussion List for New Yellow Dog Linux Users <yellowdog- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fwd: Problems installing Yellow Dog Linux onto Old World Mac Hello again, all! I tried a few different things, and wanted to provide more specific feedback in the hopes that it may be useful information to some. Trial 1: For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on the 4.0.1 CD (not the vmlinux-2.6.8-1.ydl.7 indicated in <http:// www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249> ("how to install YDL 4.0 on old world mac?") and <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/ viewtopic.php?t=381>). I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I am not sure what ramdisk I was using. For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD. The exact error message I received was " 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback File "/usr/bin/anaconda:, line 193 if outfields[0] == "connecting" and outfields[-1] == "failed": ^ SynatxError: invalid syntax " The rest just indicated how the system abended and I could restart my machine. Trial 2: For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using the ramdisk supplied on the 4.0.1 CD. For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD. The exact error message I received was " install exited abnormally " The rest just indicated how the system abended and I could restart my machine. Trial 3: For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using the ramdisk supplied on the 3.0.1 CD. For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD. The exact error message I got was from Anaconda, and it said " You don't have enough RAM to run Yellow Dog. [OK] " (This is obviously silly, since I have 1 GB of RAM, but at least Anaconda ran.) Trial 4: For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 18192. I was using the "More Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using the ramdisk supplied on the 3.0.1 CD. For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD. The exact error message I got was from Anaconda, and it said " You don't have enough RAM to run Yellow Dog. [OK] " (This is again obviously silly.) Hope this is of some use to someone. Sincerely, -- Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Begin forwarded message:From: Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: August 20, 2006 4:08:25 PM CDT To: [email protected] Subject: Problems installing Yellow Dog Linux onto Old World Mac Reply-To: Discussion List for New Yellow Dog Linux Users <[email protected]> Hello, all! I am attempting to install Yellow Dog Linux (versions 3.0.1 and 4.0.1 burned and tried, 2.3 burned but not yet tried, waiting for CDs onto which to burn 4.1) onto an Old World Mac (Power Macintosh 7500 with 1 GB RAM and a 50 GB HD (10 GB Mac OS 8.6 and 40 GB unformatted)) and I am having trouble. The 4.0.1 disk won't load Anaconda (the YDL installer engine) and crashes. The 3.0.1 disk will load Anaconda, but won't read the 3.0.1 disk for data and keeps waiting for readable CD; the 3.0.1-loaded Anaconda will read the 4.0.1 disk a little bit, but then crashes. Is there anybody on the list who has experience using BootX and mayhap even experience installing YDL on a machine this old? I am contacting TerraSoft about purchasing installation support, but the Mac is so old that I have little hope for this. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Sincerely, -- Jeffrey Rolland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie_______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie |
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