On 13-01-15 12:59 PM, Patrick Turley wrote:

On Jan 15, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Brian Lloyd <bll...@familyhonor.net
<mailto:bll...@familyhonor.net>>
  wrote:

The kernel is a special case, where the SDK is really designed for
developing user applications (which the kernel is not).

Yes, it's clear to me that, in this one respect, the SDK is unsuitable
for building kernels or kernel modules.

My point is that this is a problem, and it might be reasonable to fix it.

You probably want Jessica or Richard to comment on the architecture /
design of the SDK with respect to kernel elements. The only packaging
for out of tree / non build system builds that I know I've ever looked
into are on target, or staging directory builds of modules.


I found it pretty easy to create a kernel-module-MYMODULE.bbclass file
and build the kernel and module in the OE/Poky build system directly,
and then have it included in the image made for the device.

See
http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.4/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#incorporating-out-of-tree-modules
for details.

Thanks for pointing me at that.  As it happens, I can't use that method
because I'm not going to create a recipe.

Everyone/Everything has their reasons for the different workflow(s).
(I maintain the ability to build all the boards covered in linux-yocto
without the need for any build system at all, as an example). And all
workflows are definitely valid, but it is expected that the primary
workflow for anything oe/bitbake based would be centered around recipes.

Cheers,

Bruce


Brian

On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 16:52 +0000, Patrick Turley wrote:
I used the meta-toolchain-sdk recipe to produce an SDK, and I installed it. 
Here's an interesting line from the environment setup script:

   export LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed"

All these linker options are preceded by "-Wl", which indicates the SDK is 
*expecting* them to be given to gcc and then passed on to ld.

If you look at the help for the ld command line, all these options are available, but 
with the "-Wl," omitted. In fact, if you use these options exactly as shown 
here, ld will complain that they aren't recognized and fail.

So, the SDK is giving me a value of LDFLAGS that *cannot* be used with ld. Of 
course, the C compiler driver can link and produce executables, and that 
muddies the issue somewhat.

Here's an example where this is causing me real problems…

I'm building an external module against the kernel produced by Yocto. Here's an 
extract from my output:


make -C 
/home/pturley/yocto-mpu-build/tmp/work/dm8148_mpu-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-ti81xx-psp-2.6.37-r0+spawnlabs+r0/git
 M=`pwd` ARCH=arm 
CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/poky/1.3/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/armv7a-vfp-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-
 \
                 EXTRA_CFLAGS="-DUSE_UDEV=1 -DMAX_POOLS=128" modules
.
.
.
   LD [M]  
/home/pturley/z3-work/z3-centaurus-dm814x_RPS-20120626/ezsdk/component-sources/linuxutils_3_22_00_02/packages/ti/sdo/linuxutils/cmem/src/module/cmemk.ko
/opt/poky/1.3/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/armv7a-vfp-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld:
 unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1'


As you can see here, the kernel Make files are interpreting LDFLAGS as 
something that *can* be given directly to ld, so they fail.


My questions are:

1) Has anyone else run into this before?

2) If so, how did you resolve it?

3) Since the Yocto kernel build is *not* failing, I infer that it is *not* 
using the ld options the SDK gives me. So, the Yocto kernel build has its own 
pathway through which it computes its value for LDFLAGS. Why would Yocto use 
its own SDK in a way that no user is expected to?

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