I'm back :) Well, I started to investigate this more thoroughly and it was straight down a rabbit hole into a maze of twisty-turney passages :(
If you run the synths with *exactly* identical settings then both current zyn and yoshi sound almost the same as original zyn - there's a joke in there :) They are however both slightly different and further different from each other. There are provisos though. These days I can only do forward references. In the first place ancient zyn doesn't have some of the modern features. Also on current systems it can save instrument patches but not load them - not even ones it has just saved :( What I've been doing is to create a sound in old zyn, save it (keeping it still alive) then load both modern synths, link them all up to jack and to my keyboard and alternately enable/disable all three while playing. That way I can get a pretty instant comparison. That exact match? Well, with the modern synths, if you have unison set to greater than 6 the saved files will not be the same. However, if you look at the settings in the respective windows and set them the same there, then they will be. This is because zyn uses a list whereas yoshi uses a spin box. We give you every possible value in the range. They go up in progressively bigger steps after 6. Until today, there were some settings you couldn't make in yoshi. This was because for some reason the internal and external buffers had become 'fused' together. In the current master, they are separate again. There are valid reasons for wanting them different, but over the middle ranges 256 & 512 it's quite difficult to detect any change in the sound. More complete testing of this on my DAW (which has much better audio kit than my office machine) turned up another oddity. I decided to cross-check with alsa audio, only as soon as I did so yoshi crashed... and so did zyn! It turns out that in the dim, distant past it was assumed that all sound cards would run 16 bit audio. That was quite valid then, but now a lot of external cards don't support it. Most of us are so used to Jack (which hides these gory details) that we haven't noticed. When I re-enabled the on-board sound system we were back in business. The good news is that (so far) all the machines I can get my hands on work correctly with on-board sound but that may not always be the case, so as a side issue I'll work on getting us up to speed. And as for 'Bubbles'? well there can be differences and we can get the two pretty damn close. On yoshi it always sounds slightly 'smoother' than new zyn but pretty close to original zyn :) I prefer smooth! -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ _______________________________________________ yoshimi-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yoshimi-user
