On 11/07/11 22:40, James Antill wrote:
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 22:21 +0100, Andrew Ford wrote:
I have been diffing the 3.2.29 yum.8 file against the trunk version and
see that there is a new "groups" command. In my opinion this is
superfluous, and introduces a command that is both a reporting command
and a package manipulation command. As the man page says, "yum install
@group" is the same as "yum groupinstall group", as is "yum groupupdate
group".
Could one not make "yum remove @group" do what "yum groupremove group"
does, and deprecate groupinstall, groupupgrade, and groupremove -
remove @foo
...already works (and is documented in the man page :).
The command was integrated for a two reasons:
1. We already have 4 commands in "yum help", so putting them under a
single "groups" command makes help nicer and allows the user to do
things like "yum groups help" to see what they can do. As you said, most
of the normal commands take "@foo" group id's anyway ... but not
everyone knows that magic, and we'd need to keep the commands around for
backwards compat. anyway.
2. There are plans to have "groups are real objects"¹, which means we'll
probably need a bunch of other "group type" commands ... for altering
those objects.
...on the other hand if groups do die instead (I doubt it, but...) then
at least we only need to get users to ignore one command now ;).
¹ http://james.fedorapeople.org/yum/patches/groups-are-real.patch
OK - I'll buy that (I hadn't noticed - or maybe hadn't appreciated the
significance of - the sentence about "remove operates on groups...".
Perhaps the text in the "install" command description about "if the name
starts with an @ character..." should be promoted to the introduction,
and integrated into the description of package names (that I moved from
its section at the end "Specifying Package Names" to the start of the
man page). Specifying groups with an @ sign is quite a fundamental part
of the interface.
Andrew
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