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Hi, A couple of notes & queries. one. I had for some unknown reason been using '$ sudo cpan', except that certain things would not install without the 'sudo' I had no idea why, but want someone to baby-step me here and say, "That's right, no sudo" Some modules had thus been installed under my .cpan with root ownership. I did a recursive chown to get everything there under my own ownership. Not that this cured my problems. two. While checking out the version of various modules I noted: cpan> upgrade make::up::any::old::module::name All modules are up to date for any::old::module::name ie. if you make a mistake in the module name you want to update it will tell you that it is uptodate! Can't be right, can it? three. I also noted that following an upgrade (of a correctly named module) that the version reported by cpan> i my::correct::module::name was not the latest version as reported to be on cpan itself. I didn't see any indication of a problem on the upgrades (except one module only) on a whole batch. Why might this be? I am stuck with earlier versions than cpan - which might be the source of my problems. thanks in advance for any comments Anne _______________________________________________ Za-pm mailing list Za-pm@pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm posts also archived on Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/za-pm@pm.org/