I had missed the removal of one's own name
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no
consequences for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what
good can it possibly do us to know who is responsible.
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on
someone's part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list,
that means I would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs
here. Since we began the vine system, posts regarding them has become
the major influx of mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to
the vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it
hits the boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to
me, none of you are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have
eliminated all porn spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap
that plagues yahoo groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List
the friendliest, crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I
care to take it, on the moderator end...
I think we know where the vines are and who kills
them. The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be
fair, as we all have life difficulties from time to time. It
shouldn't be a problem to let the list know your going to cause a
delay...unless your pc dies...then what?
Mr. Skull
Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I
only try to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the
more active viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able
to inflict consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it
and I welcome your private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send
no boys, okay? Serious contributors only, please. And I gotta take a
minute to thank JimL for holding down the fort for me in the past - you
ROCK, dude!}
AFA what I recommend in the case of known (or suspected)
"vine killers", if you all know who's killing off vines (Lord knows I
have no clue), then simply move their name to the end of the list, or
remove it altogether. If they respond and bitch, state your case in the
most inoffensive manner possible {remember, personal attacks are simply
not tolerated; use the facts as you see them, and keep your opinion to
yourself}, and request an explanatory response.
Remember, it's your group!
It's unfortunate, but a fact, that some folks are just
scum. I'm one of those that needs to smacked over the head
repeatedly with proof before I believe it of anyone... It's one of
the things that makes me lovable - that, and my tasteful, maroon
hue.
Regards,
SOFA