When you swim well, your intelligence is not separate from your action, but indivisible. At that point the things you could think about swimming, things you read in books, are not necessary to think. The intelligence is there in the action.
All these words about thoughts vs perceptions seem to have a viewpoint of analysis. To analyse without the view point of analysing, you swim, answer questions about swimming, give explanations of swimming, all without leaving the spot. On Oct 4, 2010 6:02 PM, <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote: Edgar, As usual I agree with some of what you say but not all. The part I agree with is that zen is not anti anything. I’d say if anything it’s anti-attachments. I myself winced when I sent the post affirming that zen is anti-intellectual. It’s not. The part I disagree with you is about the role of intelligence in zen. Intelligence is not necessary to realize Buddha Mind, only sensory experience. Intelligence (rationality) like all illusions can be benign. The important thing is to discard your attachment to intelligence or any other illusion. Intelligence can be used, as you have said, to help orient you in the beginning - but it is not necessary. You can gain information about most anything with your intelligence – like reading books or even listening to others talk. Intelligence can be used to learn to swim or ride a bike. You can get a general idea of what it is you are supposed to do, but to actually swim you have to get into the water or onto the bike and throw the book away. What you have learned using your intelligence might help you then, or it might hinder you. These are functions your body has to learn, not your rational mind. It’s the same with zen. …Bill! *From:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Owen *Sent:* Monday, October 04, 2010 4:53 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Bible, God, etc. Nonsense. Zen is not anti anything except perhaps illusion. Intelligence is absolutely necess... __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5503 (20101004) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5503 (20101004) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it t...