Hi Anthony,
Thank you for your support of ancient Chinese wisdom, or shall I say
Chinese "common sense"?
Agreement or disagreement are in the domain of form, for the
satisfaction of our ego only. It does not matter whether anyone agrees
or disagrees.
What important for all of us is to experience it. To be enlightened
now. To liberate more people. Just do it.
Now, here is another statement you made, which I like to explain, if I
may, "Tiandi Zhi Chi" or Global Chi, can be experienced as well. We do
that all the time in our classes. It is more than an "idea"...
Do you want to give it a try?
My Teacher always emphasizes, "don't just take my word for it. Practice
and experience yourself."
:-)
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 10/21/2010 2:56 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JM,
there is no doubt that chi exists on a physical level. Acupuncture
cures diseases by following the flow of chi. I must expand that it
sometimes also refers to more spiritual ideas. Global chi (tiandi zhi
chi) is universal law.
So, we are not always in disagreement.
Anthony
--- On *Thu, 21/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, 21 October, 2010, 2:00 PM
Hi Anthony,
Thank you for your support. Actually Dr. Shin Lin, Vice Principal
of UCI has already prove the existence of chi, its energy points
and chi channels.
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 10/20/2010 3:02 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
Mike,
I am coming to the defence of JMJM. 'Chi' is not spirit. It is
very much physical, though the mechanism has yet to be discovered
by science.
Anthony
--- On *Wed, 20/10/10, mike brown /<[email protected]>
</mc/[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: mike brown <[email protected]>
</mc/[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
To: [email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010, 8:59 AM
JMJM,
Just like to state that I didn't get that info from the Larry
King programme! You're right about the need to still "sit
through", however to know that we are somehow changing our
brain/thoughts for the positive in a concrete, physiological
way frees us from a lot of the esoteric and ceremonial
nonsense that Zen is clouded in (no offence meant, but
'spirit' and 'chi' could be put into that category).
Mike
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*From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
</mc/[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wed, 20 October, 2010 9:43:33
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
Yes, as per Larry King program, about 2-3 weeks ago, a bunch
of scientists did say that our brain can be changed.
Yet even if we accept this discovery, we still need to "sit
through".
Knowing any of this does not help us with any short cut.
Words are forms. Words are in a domain separate from the
domain of energy and spirit.
:-)
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com <http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com/>
http://www.heartchan.org <http://www.heartchan.org/>
On 10/19/2010 5:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
ED, Bill, Mayka et al,
If I can just jump in here. There is scientific data to
suggest that the brain has a kind of plasticity and so can
be neurologically changed according to how it is used. I
think this is should hold a huge interest for those of us
interested in zen/meditation. Learning to pay attention to
the moment and letting go of negative thoughts can be seen
as a 'skill' just like learning a language or playing the
piano. If one incorporates sitting into their daily lives
it'd be possible to change the physiology of the brain to
better respond to internal/external stimuli with happier
results. Zen, as an art of living, could then jettison all
the religious mumbo-jumbo that it's wrapped up in now.
Mike
