On Saturday, January 15, 2011, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> The whole idea of life and death being run like a slightly inept bureaucracy > > That has always been the case in China. Is there something similar in the > west? I have mostly worked for large corporations in my life, and I find Journey to the West to be extremely funny. Doing things because of stuff written on paper instead of good judgment is par for the course, even when the magitude of the consequent waste is visible to all. Pretending that schedules made up contrary to the advise of the experienced people (because the project would be too expensive if it took as long as was predicted), and then having long meetings to find out what went wrong when it took the expected amount of time. Filling out time sheets, pursued by VPs who you think would be able to find productive activity to busy themselves with, slotting time into ten slices that do not reflect the work one actually does. Arg. > > Anthony > > --- On Sun, 16/1/11, ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> wrote: > > > From: ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Pure Land Buddhism, heaven and hell, Monkey etc(to > Steve/list) > To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 7:17 AM > > > > > I have read that one. The whole idea of life and death being run like a > slightly inept bureaucracy is one a corporate employee like me finds highly > amusing. > > > And the way in which Kwan Yin is portrayed, kindly but without the aura of > sanctitude is refreshing. And Monkey King is a very appealing hero to my > kids, he keeps being bad but without ill will and makes up for it. And great > powers to boot. > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 15:07, Anthony Wu > <wu...@yahoo.com.sg <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wu...@yahoo.com.sg>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > Do you remember an episode in the story that Attorney General Cui of King of > Death found out the life of Tang Emperor was about to end, he then added two > (Chinese character) strokes to turn 'one' to 'three'. When later the King > examined the 'revised' Book of Life and Death, he concluded that the emperor > still had 20 more years to live, so he released him back to the human world. > Cui did that as a favor to his good friend Wei Zheng the prime minister of > the emperor. What an admirable position Cui is in. > > Anthony > > --- On Sun, 16/1/11, ChrisAustinLane > <ch...@austin-lane.net <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ch...@austin-lane.net>> > wrote: > > > From: ChrisAustinLane > <ch...@austin-lane.net <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ch...@austin-lane.net>> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Pure Land Buddhism, heaven and hell, Monkey etc(to > Steve/list) > To: > "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>" > > <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>> > Cc: > "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>" > > <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>> > Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 2:39 AM > > > > > Journey to the west is a great read! It is a funny funny entertaining book! > I am about 1/2 of the way thru reading it aloud to my daughter. It is not a > serious religious book except that it skewers many simplistic beliefs about > heaven and hell and all that. > > > Seems like there are too many Chinese Buddhists to summarize the "beliefs of > Chinese Buddhists" but anyways. > > > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:24, Mel > <gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Steve! > > Question... > > - Are you with this I've been hearing lately about called Pure Land Buddhism? > > - I've come across some passage in some library book somewhere that the > Chinese Buddhists believe that one has to first be cleansed in Hell before > entering Heaven. Is this true? I ask because you give me the impression of > following the Chinese way of things when it comes to the Buddha > > - .....Which brings to something I'm curious about....Is there a connection > between the Chinese work JOURNEY TO THE WEST(Tales of Monkey?) and the above > belief(s)? > > Thanks Steve! > > be well > Mel > > --- On Sat, 15/1/11, SteveW > <eugnostos2...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eugnostos2...@yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > > From: SteveW > <eugnostos2...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eugnostos2...@yahoo.com>> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Differences Tao/Chan, which older(to Kristy/list) > To: > <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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