Wow, ED for once we agree on something. ! 

--- On Fri, 11/3/11, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Two Potent Quotes
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 11 March, 2011, 7:57


  





It can be said that anger has no 'direction', but is due to a (mistaken)
belief that the universe owes it to one that people/and or things ought
not to be the way they are, but ought to be the way one wants them to
be, and that the universe has has failed to deliver. --ED

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, yonyonson@... wrote:
>
> Where is the anger directed? At the person who was abused before that
> continues the chain? At the behavior? Your example was so general. Are
> you seeing this? Do you give the abuser a hand after you stop the
initial
> action and ask them what's happened to them? Can you let them have a
> cigarette to gain their composure? Do you have children?

> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM, SteveW eugnostos2000@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi ED. I agree with you on this. I certainly don't think that people
> > should never be angry when it is appropriate to the situation. What
I am
> > really talking about are pervasive conditioned patterns of response
across
> > the board. For Aversion types, even when they are not angry, there
is still
> > a subtle urge to push away, and escape from, people, places and
things.
> > Anger is sometimes perfectly appropriate, imo. If I see a child
being
> > abused, I will certainly allow the quite appropriate anger to
energize my
> > appropriate response to protect the child. IMO.
> > Steve






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