ED,

There is nothing 'wrong' with living with the illusion of self and having 
attachments.  Buddhism 101 teaches that attachments are the cause of 
sufferring.  'Happiness' is a dualistic concept.  If you create 'happiness' 
then you also create 'sadness' or sufferring.

If you're okay with that then you have no strong incentive to take up zen.  Zen 
(lower-case 'z') does not prosletize.  Buddhism and Zen Buddhism might, but zen 
does not.

...Bill!  

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Within limits, what's the problem with having attachments which make one
> happy. All non-human living entities and 99.9 percent of humans are
> under the illusion of self.
> 
> So what?
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > ED,
> >
> > 'Gratifying the self' is another phrase for 'having attachments'. It
> also implies the person is still under the illusion of 'self'.
> >
> > ...Bill!
>




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